Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

So do join me Rob Briden wherever you get your podcasts.

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to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app.

The Panic is a new comedy podcast from Wondery that leans into our most absurd anxieties and

defuses them with humor and actual advice. Listen to Don't Panic on the Wondery app or

wherever you get your podcasts.

Got a bonus episode for you this week. It's my friend Danny Goldman. You may know him

as Daniel Goldman. He wrote a huge book. A couple decades ago, a huge book called Emotional

Intelligence which was really a paradigm shifting a book about not being yanked around by your

emotions. It was informed in part by his many years as a science journalist but also in part by

his decades as a meditator. And I became friends with him several years ago. He's part of this

group that sometimes is referred to as the Jew Boos. A bunch of folks mostly from the New York

City area who and many of them sort of Ivy Leaguers who all ended up for a variety of reasons

getting into meditation in the 60s and 70s. Some of them over in India, others of them back here at

home. Many of these folks have been on this podcast before Mark Epstein, Sharon Salisburg,

and the like. And Danny is part of that group. It has been four years and also has been just

super influential for me as a as a writer and also as a friend just as by way of an example.

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