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Black Girl In Om

#72 Creating Spaces For Ourselves Outside The White Gaze with Makkah Ali

Black Girl In Om

Lauren Ash

Women Of Color, Religion & Spirituality, Holistic, Women, Self­-care, Mindfulness, Spirituality, Black Women, Manifestation, Health, Yoga, Mental Health, Self­-love, Wellness

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Makkah Ali (she/her), Chicago-based podcaster, facilitator, and public speaker, joins BGIO founder Lauren Ash (she/they) in conversation around spiritual seeking and creating spaces for ourselves outside of the white gaze. Makkah is a multidimensional being who makes space for others to find peace and beauty in the many identities they claim. She executive produces and co-hosts the Identity Politics Podcast, which centers the voices of Black Muslim women and features new stories and perspectives about race, gender, and Muslim life in America. In this episode of the Black Girl In Om Podcast, Lauren and Makkah talk about their individual journeys of defining their relationships with God for themselves outside of anyone else’s expectations. Makkah shares about the many ways that wellness and Islamic faith seamlessly overlap in her life. Lauren and Makkah also discuss the power of intentional connection in a white supremacist world that banks on us feeling and being isolated from one another. Makkah encourages us to create spaces for ourselves outside of the white gaze so that we can self actualize and define our values for ourselves. Press play to get inspired! Follow Makkah on Instagram and Twitter @MsMakkah Listen to the Identity Politics Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts, and find out more about the show at IdentityPoliticsPod.com For 20% off of Organifi’s delicious completely plant-based and non-GMO organic superfood blends, head over to Organifi.com/blackgirlinom and use code blackgirlinom Note: This conversation was recorded in September 2019 while Makkah was the president of the Board of Directors of the Muslim Anti-Racism Collaborative. She now serves as a Director on the Managed Organizations Team at Arabella Advisors, where she works with philanthropic partners to develop, structure and maximize the impact of social sector projects. Makkah is also a member of the Board of Directors of the Crossroads Fund which supports community organizations working on issues of racial, social and economic justice in the Chicago area.

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0:00.0

Welcome, I'm Lauren Ash and you're listening to the Black Girl in Home Podcast.

0:11.9

Black Girl in Home exists to hold and catalyze healing within Black women around the world

0:16.5

on their unique journeys towards wholeness.

0:19.8

We support the necessary transformation, spiritual awakening, consciousness shifts, and intergenerational

0:26.5

healing occurring within the diaspora.

0:29.4

This podcast is a warm embrace, soothing realness, and conscious girl talk.

0:35.0

Come into conversation with me and our spirit-centered guests.

0:38.5

Let the journey begin.

0:46.3

Hey y'all, so on today's episode, I am so grateful to have a friend of mine in the studio.

0:55.0

She is such an amazing light in so many ways.

1:00.0

One of my first friends in Chicago, when I moved to Chicago in 2014, and she is an all-around

1:07.3

phenomenal, multifaceted woman.

1:09.7

She's a Chicago-based podcaster.

1:12.6

You may be familiar with her from the Identity Politics podcast.

1:16.9

She and my other friend, Eclas Salim, feature new stories and perspectives about race,

1:22.0

gender, and Muslim life in America, and she's also the president of the Board of Directors

1:27.0

at the Muslim Anti-Racism Collaborative, so so grateful to have you in the studio.

1:31.6

I'm so excited to be here.

1:33.1

Also, I remember I met you the first day I was in Chicago.

1:37.3

Wait, okay, let's zoom back.

1:39.5

Please tell me what happened.

1:41.2

No, Eclas brought me to a party because I didn't know anybody, and I think it was maybe Lisa's

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