You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Alex Leashman, CEO and CTO of River, one of the best and most focused Bitcoin.

We have a financial institution now?

How are we describing ourselves?

Yeah, you call us a financial institution.

Can't say bank yet, but...

Yet, interesting, interesting characterization there, but one of the best in the world uh good

friend bit on the show many times but it's time to catch out the world is chaotic out there

many people are worried bitcoins at 67 thousand dollars uh it's it's detached from the nasdaq gold and silver are pumping uh epstein files have

been released it's it's all over sir yeah you know apparently epstein's satoshi uh it has

it's been a combination of hilarious and tiresome.

I'm watching the narrative slow through over the last few weeks.

Yeah.

There's been a lot of new information.

You know, I think one of the problems with the whole Epstein thing is sort of, you know,

it's like the ultimate boogeyman,

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