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Michael and Us

#718 - Would That It Were So Simple

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Society & Culture

4.5696 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Like all empires, the Hollywood studio system had its decadent stage. We discuss Joel and Ethan Coen's HAIL, CAESAR! (2016), which pits an idealogue for the Hollywood studio system against a cabal of communist writers. PLUS: We discuss The Fall of the House of Colbert, and a hot new Washington Post podcast that gets "biz-zay." Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus Listen to Luke discuss the future of the left with Jacobin founding editor Bhaskar Sunkara - https://www.lukewsavage.com/p/time-for-socialism-ft-bhaskar-sunkara

Transcript

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0:00.0

for Hollywood

0:01.5

That bully

0:03.3

Hollywood and

0:03.8

bully Hollywood

0:05.0

They hire cowboys

0:07.2

And they hang

0:08.0

their shafts up

0:09.0

And all they're mapped up

0:10.8

And give them

0:11.8

All that they left

0:13.2

Did you see this thing

0:14.0

I sent you?

0:14.8

This cartoon?

0:16.3

The cartoon?

0:17.4

Yeah.

0:17.8

It's pretty good, right?

0:18.9

Luke sent me a cartoon.

0:20.5

Could you describe the cartoon for me, sir?

0:22.6

It's five, well, four sagely men holding up like a big stone roof that says American democracy.

0:31.1

They're all kind of wearing togas because I guess the implication is, you know, they're the

0:35.6

the Guardians of the Republic, uh,

0:38.1

but, um, it's starting to teeter this, this big stone they're holding up because, uh, Mr. Stephen Colbert is walking away. Now, I initially thought that this was, I thought this was a little worse than it actually, I mean, this cartoon fucking sucks, but, um, if you look at the guy on the left there well, I looked at that and I was like, is that Larry Summers?

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