717: Heidi and Josh Packard’s Mormon Transition Pt. 1
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 5 April 2017
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
SUPER honored/proud to release my latest interview with Heidi Nielson Packard and Dr. Josh Packard. This powerful, informative, and in-depth interview covers:
- Heidi and Josh’s very orthodox Mormon upbringing and early years as Mormons. For those interested, Heidi’s brother is Christian Nielson, who is married to Stephanie Nielson of the NieNie Dialogues blog (sister to Courtney Clark Kendrick or CJane)
- Their faith crisis involving science and LDS history (reading Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling), which resulted in Josh asking to be released from the bishopric,
- How Heidi and Josh found value in secular humanism as a way to raise their children after Mormonism,
- How the military community has helped to meet there social needs after leaving Mormonism, and
- How they overcame early “mistakes” in communicating with believing family, resulting in more loving, respectful relationships with believing family members today.
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| 0:49.3 | Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories and in this |
| 0:53.6 | case Mormon Transitions podcast. I'm your host John D'Alene and today I'm so |
| 0:59.2 | excited to interview a couple that I've actually known or been in contact with |
| 1:03.5 | for many many years. Josh and Heidi, I know at least Josh I met you in 2011 |
| 1:10.3 | probably February issue of 2011 but I think we've been in contact. Heidi, were |
| 1:15.2 | you there as well that I meet you in New York? Yeah. We met New York when when the |
| 1:21.2 | Book of Mormon musical first came out a bunch of us went to New York and saw it |
| 1:26.0 | and that's where I met Josh and Heidi Packard but I'm really excited for today's |
| 1:31.9 | interview. The date is March 2nd 2017. We're doing this as a live broadcast so |
| 1:40.4 | people can join us through Facebook live as well. There is a video and an audio |
| 1:46.0 | recording and there are several things we're going to be talking about with |
| 1:49.8 | Heidi and Josh. Heidi and Josh experienced kind of a faith crisis which is a |
| 1:56.9 | theme that we're really exploring in depth this year and there are a few things |
| 2:01.4 | that are really interesting about their story. First off, I think and we'll get |
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