Hey, everybody. How are you? Welcome to The Other People Show. I'm Brad Listy in Los Angeles. It's good to be with you. I hope you're okay. I have Greg Gerke on the program today. He is the author of an essay collection called See What I See, available now from Zero Gram Press.

That conversation coming up momentarily.

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So my guest today is Greg Gerke.

His new essay collection, See What I See What I See is out there now on Zero Gram Press.

He also has a collection of stories out.

It is called Especially the Bad Things.

That was published by Splice.

His work has appeared in Tin House,

filmed quarterly,

the Kenyan Review,

and many other publications. And I'm pleased to have him here on the program.

We had a great conversation,

and we're going to get to it right now. This is Greg Gerke and his essay collection one more time is called See What I See.

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