711 | Sight Fishing for Northern Pike with Matt Martin - Smooth River Guiding
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Dave Stewart
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🗓️ 27 January 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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When you think of a predatory fish, what are the first few species that come to mind? For many anglers, Northern Pike is among the most thrilling predators to catch. If fishing for northern pike is on your radar, today's episode is a must-listen.
In this episode, we will break down sight fishing for Northern Pike with Matt Martin of Smooth River Guide. Find out his secrets to targeting big Northern Pike by sight. Here's what you'll learn:
Muskie vs Pike
Best time to target Northern Pike
Sight Fishing Northern Pike
How to Find Pike in Shallow Bays
Best Flies (and color) for Northern Pike Fishing
The perfect strip, and when the fish strike
Episode Chapters with Matt Martin on Sight Fishing for Northern Pike
Matt Martin grew up in Barrie, Ontario, and now lives in Midland, a town on the shores of Georgian Bay. Georgian Bay is known as the 30,000 Islands region. It's the world's largest freshwater archipelago.
Matt guides on over 50 lakes and a dozen rivers, targeting 14 different species. Northern Pike is definitely a top species to target, but it can still vary depending on where you are in the province.
Here's a breakdown of the species you can fish in the area:
Smallmouth and Largemouth Bass
Northern Pike – Pike season runs from May to June and then again in September.
Walleye
Muskie
Chinook Salmon
Coho
Rainbow Trout
Steelhead
Brown Trout
Muskie vs Pike
Unlike pike, which are easier to catch, muskies are tough. You might not even see one all day, and the chances of getting a hit are low. Muskies are more challenging to catch because they have a lower population and a bigger home range.
For those who want to target muskie, Matt recommends booking more than one day to increase your chances.
Best Time to Go Fishing for Northern Pike
The best time for northern pike fishing is in the spring. The season opens on May 1st in Ontario, and that's when pike are easiest to catch. Here's why:
In the first week of May, pike can be found in less than two feet of water, sunbathing in sandy bottom bays.
The main lake water is still cold (around 42-43°F), but the back bays warm up to the 50s. Pike use the warmer water to increase their metabolism.
According to Matt, sight fishing for pike is a whole new level of fun.
Sight Fishing for Northern Pike
Matt uses an 18-foot Lund Deep V fishing boat for sight fishing. He says it's perfect for the larger lakes, especially when the waves get rough. Matt uses advanced gear like a Minn Kota motor and Garmin LiveScope to spot pike before casting.
Fishing for Northern Pike in Shallow Bays
In the spring, focus on large, warm bays, especially those near river mouths. These areas draw pike because they offer the perfect hiding spots in weeds or along logs, where pike can ambush prey. Pike are ambush predators, so they wait below the surface to attack.
When fishing for pike, Matt says to keep your fly around 2 to 4 feet above the fish because pike strike from below.
Best Flies for Fishing Northern Pike
Matt prefers using bright, easy-to-see flies when fishing for pike, especially in spring. He avoids natural tones and uses colors like white, yellow, or bright pink.
The key is using flies that mimic the white belly of baitfish. Pike are drawn to movement, so keep that fly above them and use a strip to get their attention.
Stripping Your Fly for Pike
The way you strip your fly is crucial for catching pike. Most strikes happen during the pause between strips, not while you're actively moving the fly.
For some flies, like the Game Changer, Matt recommends a quick, short strip with a half-second pause to let the fly sink a bit.
Other flies like the Yard Sale need a longer strip with a hard kick at the end to make the fly wobble like an injured fish.
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Essential Gear for Catching Big Northern Pike
Pike can be super aggressive, so it's key to be prepared with the right gear to protect you and the fish. Here are some things to remember when fishing for Northern Pike:
Use a large, deep net to keep the fish in the water while you unhook it.
Have multiple sets of tools like jaw spreaders and pliers for safe handling.
Protect the fish to make sure they're safely released after catching them.
Pike can live up to 20–25 years in the wild. Matt says it's okay to keep smaller ones (around 27 inches), but those big 40-inch fish should go back in the water. If you keep one, make sure it's injured and can't survive being released.
Matt's Go-to Tips for Fishing for Northern Pike
Start in Shallow Bays
Bring Multiple Rods and Lines
Use 8-10 weight rods and carry lines with different sinking rates: floating, intermediate, type 3, and type 5.
Add a 12-inch section of 20-25 lb bite wire to your leader.
Short Leaders Work Best
Use Durable Pike Lines
Focus on bays with creeks, green weeds, and the right structure.
Matt's final advice? Stick with it and have faith—pike are
Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/711
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| 0:00.0 | When you think of a predatory fish, what are the first few species that come to your mind? |
| 0:06.5 | And what is it that makes those species so special? |
| 0:09.6 | Today we are going to break down Northern Pike from one of the best guides in Ontario. |
| 0:14.1 | And today, you're going to find out how he does it and how to find Big Pike by sight. |
| 0:20.1 | This is the Webfly Swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to give back to the fish species we all love. How's it going? I'm Dave, host of the Wet Fly Swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid. I grew up around a little fly shop and have created one of the largest fly fishing podcasts in this country. I've also interviewed more of the greatest fly anglers and |
| 0:42.6 | guides than just about anyone out there. Matt Martin, smooth river guide and an expert on targeting |
| 0:48.4 | big northern pike by sight is going to share all of his best secrets today. You're going to find out |
| 0:53.4 | where to find the best bays and why you should be starting from the deep water and fishing in towards the shallow. We're going to get into that today. You're going to find out what the perfect strip is and when the fish will strike. We're going to talk about that today, the exact strip you need to do. And also what the perfect color is that you're going to be needing to have success |
| 1:11.7 | out there. We're going to get in it all today, a bunch of tips and tricks. Plus, you're going to find out |
| 1:15.9 | how Matt sightfish is for Big Pike and how you can do the same. We're going to get into it, |
| 1:20.6 | seeing the fish, seeing the fly, seeing the take. It's all here today. Ontario at its finest. |
| 1:26.2 | Here he is, Matt Martin from smoothriver.ca. |
| 1:31.3 | How you doing, Matt? I'm doing fantastic, Dave. How are you today? Great. Great. Yeah, |
| 1:36.4 | this is going to be a fun conversation today. We are going to get into Northern Pike. We've talked |
| 1:40.8 | some more Northern Pike over the years. We've talked Muskie. And really up where you are, Ontario, you know, I think is a hot spot. We've heard a lot about it. And I think we talked off air, though, you got the So Fly crew coming on. We just did a podcast with them. And there's a bunch of great people. We've actually, it feels like we've been hitting Ontario hard recently because we've been connecting with the new fly fisherisher and I've had a bunch of episodes with them that are coming up here. So it's been fun. But give me an update. What's going on now? It's almost when this goes out, it's going to be kind of early February. Is it, it's kind of crazy right now. It's pretty cold up there, right? Yeah, extremely cold. You know, our, this year, we've actually had our first, what feels like real winter in the last like five years. |
| 2:21.2 | Um, Yeah, extremely cold. You know, our, this year we've actually had our first, what feels like real winter in the last like five years. |
| 2:21.6 | We've had snow and ice right from the beginning of December. |
| 2:25.0 | And typically, you know, the last five years, some of our lakes haven't even froze over. |
| 2:28.5 | So, you know, I even went out on the ice just yesterday. |
| 2:31.3 | And we had like 14 inches of ice in one spot that last year didn't |
| 2:35.2 | freeze over. So pretty crazy. Yeah. So we're middle of winter right now. It's perfect time for me to |
| 2:40.5 | be getting all the prep done for the year, tying a lot of flies, you know, going on podcasts like |
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