We feel comfortable.

Greetings friends. It's Monday, February 27th, and we've got some shopped up coming at you.

Felix is off today, so it's me and Matt.

But if you're not joining us today for the entire episode,

this returning champion will summer.

Will, welcome to the show.

Hey, thanks for having me.

Or welcome back to the show, I should say.

But you're here today to discuss, we're talking about your new book, Trust the Plan,

about everyone's favorite.

I don't know, Heuristic Dream State that is now altering and shaping our reality.

We're talking QAnon on the show with Will Summer, and you just got a book out covering your many years,

immersing yourself in QAnon lore.

And I guess what I want to begin with today,

taking like a sort of a wide angle, the widest possible lens for understanding this phenomenon,

now like what, three, four, five years on now,

is I was thinking about something my friend Jacob Bakkerak said on Twitter the other day,

in response to a New York Times article about the astonishing number of undocumented,

like unparity, like migrant children who were being gang pressed into working at slaughterhouses and factories.

And his point was that like QAnon is like, in the same way,

it's a blind men discussing an elephant version of describing the like actual like contours of exploitation and oppression,

particularly of children in this country, but it's a narrative in which like Jo and Jane,

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