If you treat passion for stability, you basically treat one fiction for another.

Both are products of our imagination.

Welcome to the Knowledge Project,

a long-form conversation hosted by Shane Parish.

Our goal with the podcast is simple.

To learn something new in every conversation that makes us a little bit smarter than we were yesterday.

You can learn more about the show and find past episodes at fs.blog slash podcast.

The Knowledge Project is part of Fernum Street,

a website dedicated to mastering the best of what other people have already figured out.

Fernum Street puts together a weekly newsletter called Brain Food that comes out every Sunday.

Much like this podcast, it's high signal, timeless, and mind-expanding.

You can read what you've been missing at fs.blog.

I get asked a lot to do episodes on relationships.

People want to know how we farm them, how we break them, and how we make them stronger.

Today I'm speaking with Esther Paral.

I've waited a long time for this conversation.

Esther is a psychotherapist based in New York, author, Ted Speaker, and host of where we should begin podcast.

Today we're going to talk about her childhood and growing up with two parents who survived the Holocaust,

the difference between living and surviving, and of course relationships,

and the ways we communicate with our partners.

We discuss honesty, common argument patterns, conscious un coupleing, desire, sex, and her podcast.

It's time to listen and learn.

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