Hello, podleters. I hope you're all doing okay in the middle of this very hot weather.

I'm sitting under a dovetail called this and I can tell you right now I'm sweating a lot.

But onwards and upwards to the episode, this week's episode I speak to Atage-Hool.

She is a beauty journalist. She's also creating her own foundation.

She also is a producer and creator. She has so many accolades on to her name,

which she will hear when she introduces herself. So a complete inspiration.

And we discuss her main role, which is within the beauty industry and beauty journalism

and how that kind of intersects with race and racism. So we talk about Black beauty and how

Black women so often aren't valued in society and so aren't provided for. But as she is also a

historian, she goes into a lot of history on these issues and I learn a lot from her and I'm

sure that you will too. I really hope you enjoy the episode and as always, please do rate review

and subscribe. Bye!

Repressed anger and grief and heartache. But I think I'm really hopeful for the future that

the future will bring real change, real social justice and we can see what the next steps are.

Good. I'm so glad that you're in like a bit more of a positive mind-sex, as you say. I can imagine

it was so difficult. For people who don't know who you are, what you do. Could you give us a

introduction to Atte? Of course. So I'm a Dr Atte Jewel. I am a beauty journalist and I'm a producer,

director. I'm a diversity advocate. I've been in the industry for 20 years, writing for British

Fogues, Sunday Times Style, the FT, telegraphs, Mary Claire, Graxia, Guardian Observer, and everything

in between. I also have an award-winning production company where you make short films and documentaries

where working on a feature film that we're financing and getting out next year. I'm a twin mum.

I am launching a brand, a beauty brand with a foundation which has, you know, I've formulated

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