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You are not alone. You have found other people you and i have a friend in common every stupid thing

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people this is two complete strangers engaging in collegial banter this is something of a remedy for

loneliness my guest today is ben fountain he is the author of brief encounters with chegovara

uh that's a debut story

collection that won the Penn Hemingway Award. And now he has just published his debut novel

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