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Welcome, it's gonna be such an exciting episode because I've got two old dogma debate friends on the show. The first one you won't be surprised to find

is Mr David Smalley. I mean I'm David C Smalley whatever. My publicist will be reaching out to you.

Okay. And also on the show is the first person I ever did an episode with.

Really? As co-host of Dogma Debate.

That's right.

When you were with me, this was, it was that far back.

Going all the way back, however many years,

the first episode I ever did was with black trump supporter.

Well, you mean, that's what it was called.

Yeah, it's not his name.

We did an episode with black Trump.

He has a whole name, but yeah, that would be episode.

And his name is Javier, Javier.

So nice to say it twice.

Gotta say it twice what's going on, fellas.

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