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This is Lindsay Smith Rogers.

Today, the topic is defending democracy.

Tim Carey of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions talks to Stephanie Desmond

about a new report about the dangers of armed insurrection and what can be done to

tone down both violence in the public discourse and remove guns from political spaces.

Let's listen.

Tim Carey, thanks so much for joining me.

Thank you so much for having me, Stephanie.

It's great to be here.

So today I want to talk to you about a new report that you're part of.

And it's about defending democracy against the dangers of armed insurrection,

which sounds extremely scary. And so I want you to give us a

sort of tell us what it's about. Yeah, well, I think you hit on a critical aspect there that

is scary. I mean, we have, there are risks that we are seeing out in society today from January 6th was perhaps the most egregious example,

but we're seeing it in state legislatures, election offices, public demonstrations across the country,

of this increased prevalence of not only guns and firearms being used and displayed in places critical to political participation,

but also increasing willingness of people to use them.

Sometimes we have seen, but often in political rhetoric as well, people calling for the use

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