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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#703: Payments Without Permission with Nick Slaney

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8804 Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Nick Slaney, founder of MoneyDevKit and former Block engineer behind BitKey and C=, to discuss how self-custody Bitcoin payments are solving the global access problem that Stripe and stablecoins can't, and why the vibe coding explosion makes this the perfect moment for Lightning to finally go mainstream.

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers

0:21.5

are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

0:24.4

Bitcoin wins.

0:25.4

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.3

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:32.0

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:34.6

You probably should be.

0:36.7

Nick Slaney, welcome to the show, sir.

0:39.0

Hey, Marty.

0:39.5

Thanks for having me on.

0:41.3

Thanks for coming on.

0:42.3

I think you're at the intersection of something that fascinates me incredibly right now,

0:50.1

which is Bitcoin, obviously.

0:53.2

Been a Bitcoiner for 13 years.

0:54.7

But I've been getting into vibe coding,

0:55.9

and you release the demo of integrating your product, money dev kit,

1:03.4

into Replit and making it easier for vibe coders to accept payments pretty trivially

1:09.0

using the Bitcoin network.

1:12.4

So jump off.

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