700: Payload is Rails for JS with TypeScript, React and Drizzle (James Mikrut)

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Wes Bos

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🗓️ 1 December 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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In this supper club episode of Syntax, Wes and Scott talk with James Mikrut about Payload, how Payload isn’t just a CMS, where Payload fits in a tech stack, why they picked Drizzle for an ORM, what Payload Cloud is, and where’s the Rails for JavaScript? Show Notes 00:31 Welcome 02:00 Who is James Mikrut and what’s the idea behind Payload? 05:22 Payload isn’t just a CMS Payload Payload on GitHub Payload on Twitter Payload on YouTube 09:08 Where does Payload fit in the tech stack? KeystoneJS Supabase Retool 11:22 Is Payload using TypeScript? 13:44 Why did you pick Drizzle? Drizzle ORM 18:08 Do you have to maintain MongoDB and Drizzle? SvelteKit 26:31 Does Payload have visual editing elements? 30:34 Do you build a custom UI for users? 35:10 What is Payload Cloud? 38:12 Where is the Rails for JavaScript? Next.js by Vercel Laravel Spark Deploy your Laravel PHP application painlessly RedwoodJS: The App Framework for Startups | RedwoodJS.com 41:39 How do you manage contributions from open source? 43:46 GitHub + AI 48:18 Syntax Brought to you by Sentry Error Management Magic: Introducing the Sentry Plugin for Payload 50:26 Supper Club questions Shameless Plugs Payload on GitHub Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads

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0:00.0	I sure hope you're hungry.
0:02.0	Who I'm starving?
0:04.0	Wash those hands, pull up a chair and secure that feed bag.
0:08.0	Because it's time to listen to Scott Tolinsky and West Boss attempt to use human language to converse with and picked the brains of other developers.
0:16.8	I thought there was going to be food.
0:18.8	So buckle up and grab that old shit handle because this ride is going to get wild.
0:25.0	This is the Syntax Supper Club.
0:30.0	Welcome to Syntax. Today we have James Micret on today to talk about Payload CMS. It's actually
0:39.9	been a while since we've done a podcast on different CMSs that are out there.
0:45.4	And I thought that this one would be interesting because I was I've been keeping an
0:51.2	eye on payload for a number of years now and trying it out and whatnot and they announced some stuff a couple weeks ago which is basically you can use drizzle with payload and it will out the other end you set it up
1:06.4	it will give you access to the drizzle ORM so you can use it just like you're doing and I have this thought I'm like okay well like like
1:15.2	payload is a CMS and with that you get you get a nice admin UI you get authentication you get a rest API graph
1:25.6	QL API you get an ORM you have roles and users and wholly and migrations and you get all
1:31.7	this like cool stuff along with it and I was I was kind of like thinking like okay we just built the syntax website with like an ORM and for all the like admin stuff we had to build our own UI and I thought like like why wouldn't you use payload or some
1:46.6	sort of CMS that gives you the ORM access directly at the very least if you want the ability to just have an admin UI to edit your
1:57.1	content that seems kind of nice so that's kind of we're going to talk a lot more
2:01.2	about what payload is but that's kind of my whole thought behind this type of thing. So welcome James, thanks for coming on.
2:06.8	Thanks for having me. Wes, I think you should write all the marketing copy from my website.
2:12.0	Because... marketing copy for my website. Because I agree completely with what you just said.
2:17.0	I have a lot of thoughts about this.
2:20.0	I can dive right in, but maybe I should kind of give a primer about my thoughts of
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