Hey guys, welcome to Havelas Podcast. I'm back. It's Ben Cunnington doing the podcast intro.

I'm not doing the whole podcast because today we are again going to tune in for an incredible interview with Havela and Chris Valatin.

This was recorded earlier in the month from our online empowerment summit, which you may have tuned in for, but we're going to listen in on that conversation in just a couple of minutes.

Anyways, I hope you guys are all doing well. Having a great new year. I can't believe January is almost over. It's flying by. It's kind of crazy.

But it's been a full month around here. Kids are back in school, which is always a nice thing after two weeks off of Christmas and getting back in the rhythm.

So that's going on. We did the online empowerment summit, launched a book club. Havelas book came out. Havelas started doing some events again after taking a little break for the holidays.

So we are back in it. But we're excited. We're ready for this year. We are just excited to see what God is going to do and just a lot of fun things coming up.

Anyways, I encourage you to just sit back, listen into this amazing, this great conversation. So much wisdom insight as we continue our conversation around spiritual battle and spiritual warfare.

So all right guys, here we go. Let's listen in.

I'm really, really honored to have my friend and really the most one of the most pivotal and powerful leaders in my life. Chris Palatin is joining me today.

He is, he has been a hero that's become a friend that's really become a key voice in my life. And I love him dearly. Like I'm so I love him so much. I'm really honored to have him here. So Chris, thank you for joining me for a few minutes.

Yeah, I'm glad to be here. And by the way, I had the same honor for you and I've known how since she was I think 16.

And she actually worked for me for a while. I did. I almost said boss. I'm a slipped in boss, but I was like, ah, that's psychiatry help that you.

That's right. The drugs started working and I'm much better.

You know, we work together and we still really love each other. So that tells you we are we are the most amazing people we know.

So, you know, Chris is, if you follow Chris at all, you'll know that he's an expert when it comes to defining, you know, understanding the spiritual realm and as a as a profit as well as a leader.

But before we get into all of his expertise and the wisdom that I really want to pull out of him, I want to ask you, you know, Chris, if you could live anywhere in the whole world and you could take everything you love with you, where would you live?

Oh, wow. Probably somewhere around San Diego. I love San Diego, the weather, the beach, all of that, you know.

But I would say to this, you would have to take the blessing with you and I do believe that God's given us a land and my land isn't San Diego or even anywhere around there.

So I think that, you know, I'd rather be in the place I'm assigned, which is definitely ready, but if God reassigned me and you put the same blessing on me, I'm like, San Diego baby, that's a road.

I thought you had a lot. Oh, I mean, I agree to San Diego is because you have the ocean and the city, you have the culture.

It's a great place to land. I probably would land in Paris, partly. Yeah, I really like Paris. But without my family.

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