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Paul McKenna's positivity podcast.

Hello, this is Paul McKenna, and welcome to the positivity podcast.

My objective is to interview the most interesting people in the world,

and in the next 30 minutes, get insights and even discover how it is that they do what they do,

what makes them unique and fascinating, their success

mindset, and certainly what keeps them positive.

My guest today is an English professional football manager and former player. He won the

League Cup with both Aston Villa and Middlesbrough and Captain Crystal Palace to win the

First Division Championship. He was capped 57 times for England.

Currently, the manager of the England national team.

I'm talking today with Gareth Southgate.

There's been some dark moments in those times professionally,

but I've always had that mindset, okay, what's next?

I can sit and dwell on that.

I can pull the covers back over my head and stay in bed,

or we can bounce out of bed and attack the next day. I think in any walk of life, that's a mindset

that can help you. It's not about being unrealistically positive, but I think to be an optimist

and to feel that there are going to be better times ahead and we've just got to

work our way through the difficult times is really key. It's not quite as complicated as it might

appear. Most successful people I've met having a very high work ethic, this ability to bounce back

from disappointment. I think that's key because to be able to view the failures,

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