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Intersectionality Matters!

7. When They See Her: The Story of Michelle Cusseaux

Intersectionality Matters!

Intersectionality Matters with Kimberlé Crenshaw

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4.7814 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2019

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

December 14th, 2019 marks the fifth anniversary of the Say Her Name campaign, a movement founded to raise awareness of the names and stories of Black women, girls and femmes killed by police, and to provide support to the families affected. The campaign has produced a groundbreaking report expanding the conversation on police violence so that it foregrounds the experiences of Black women and girls, earned a nod in a tweet from a major presidential candidate, developed a multimedia arts-activism venture called Say Her Name: The Lives That Should Have Been, and convened the #SayHerName Mothers Network, a community for mothers of Black women lost to police violence. But none of these developments would be possible without the courage, resilience and ingenuity of Fran Garrett, the mother of Michelle Cusseaux. Cusseaux, a 50-year-old Black woman, was shot and killed on August 14, 2014 by Officer Percy Dupra while Phoenix police were trying to serve a mental health wellness check. Her life was taken just days after the police killing of Ferguson, MO teenager Mike Brown became national news, sparking nationwide outrage and galvanizing the modern movement for Black lives. To help Cusseaux’s story gain resonance in its own right, Garrett led a group of local activists in marching her daughter’s casket through downtown Phoenix, calling for an outside agency to investigate the shooting and a slew of reforms aimed at racial justice and mental health parity. It was this brave act that drew the attention of the African American Policy Forum, which catalyzed the Say Her Name campaign and the delineation of a throughline linking the loss of Cusseaux with countless other Black women like her lost too soon to state violence. Garrett’s bid for broader attention to the cause was amplified a few months later at the Millions March NYC, where AAPF made an intersectional intervention by saying the names of Michelle and other slain Black women to politicize their legacies alongside the demands made on behalf of Brown and other victims of police violence. On this special episode of Intersectionality Matters, Kimberlé Crenshaw dives deep with Fran Garrett to go beyond the headlines for the unvarnished truth on the unspeakably tragic loss of a beloved Phoenix community member. Tune in as they take stock of the movement’s progress five years in and assess the headway still to be made in making Black women’s vulnerability to police violence fully legible as a social problem. Music by Blue Dot Sessions Produced and Edited by Julia Sharpe-Levine Recorded by Sarah Ventre and Julia Sharpe-Levine Additional support provided by Andrew Sun, G’Ra Asim, Emmett O’Malley and Michael Kramer Twitter: @IMKC_podcast, IG: @IntersectionalityMatters, Fb: Intersectionality Matters with Kimberlé Crenshaw #IntersectionalityMatters LEARN MORE: http://aapf.org/shn-campaign SAY HER NAME CEREMONY OF REMEMBRANCE (NYC)- https://www.eventbrite.com/e/say-her-name-5th-anniversary-remembrance-ceremony-tickets-85292830151 MICHELLE CUSSEAUX MENTAL HEALTH FAIR (PHX)-https://www.aahherc.com/

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Kimberly Crenshaw, and this is Season 2 of Intersectionality Matters, the podcast that brings

0:07.2

intersectionality to life by exploring the hidden dimensions of today's most pressing issues,

0:13.2

from Say Her Name and Me Too to the War on Civil Rights and the Global Rise of Fascism.

0:19.7

This idea travelogue lifts up the work of leading activists,

0:24.1

artists, and scholars and helps listeners understand politics, the law, social movements,

0:29.5

and even their own lives in deeper, more nuanced ways. In 2014, I received an email from my friend and mentor Barbara Arnwein.

0:43.3

She said, you've got to look at this.

0:45.6

And when I clicked on it, I saw something that I'd never seen before.

0:49.1

There was a black woman carrying a coffin around downtown Phoenix, Arizona, with a few others, and they were all shouting,

0:58.1

Justice for Michelle.

1:03.6

Michelle, as it turns out, was Michelle Kousseau.

1:07.1

Michelle was killed in her own home when a police detail was dispatched to her house on a mental health call.

1:14.3

This was five days after Mike Brown was killed in Ferguson.

1:18.8

Fran Garrett, the woman who was pictured in the video, was Michelle's mother.

1:24.6

Fran decided that she was not going to let the world forget or ignore the fact that her

1:29.0

daughter, Michelle Coussoe, was senselessly killed by the police. Fast forward three months later,

1:36.3

we're all in New York City. This time we're protesting the no bill against the killer of Eric Garner.

1:43.3

We're in a crowd of tens of thousands of people

1:46.6

marching, demanding justice, saying the names of Eric Garner, of Mike Brown, of Tamir Rice.

1:54.2

And some of us started saying the names of Michelle Kousseau and Tanisha Anderson, other black women who've been killed by the police.

2:07.2

The response to the people at the march told us everything we needed to know about the imperative behind say her name.

2:14.8

Now, a few people said that they were glad we were saying these names. They were

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