7. When They See Her: The Story of Michelle Cusseaux
Intersectionality Matters!
Intersectionality Matters with Kimberlé Crenshaw
4.7 • 814 Ratings
🗓️ 13 December 2019
⏱️ 38 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Kimberly Crenshaw, and this is Season 2 of Intersectionality Matters, the podcast that brings |
| 0:07.2 | intersectionality to life by exploring the hidden dimensions of today's most pressing issues, |
| 0:13.2 | from Say Her Name and Me Too to the War on Civil Rights and the Global Rise of Fascism. |
| 0:19.7 | This idea travelogue lifts up the work of leading activists, |
| 0:24.1 | artists, and scholars and helps listeners understand politics, the law, social movements, |
| 0:29.5 | and even their own lives in deeper, more nuanced ways. In 2014, I received an email from my friend and mentor Barbara Arnwein. |
| 0:43.3 | She said, you've got to look at this. |
| 0:45.6 | And when I clicked on it, I saw something that I'd never seen before. |
| 0:49.1 | There was a black woman carrying a coffin around downtown Phoenix, Arizona, with a few others, and they were all shouting, |
| 0:58.1 | Justice for Michelle. |
| 1:03.6 | Michelle, as it turns out, was Michelle Kousseau. |
| 1:07.1 | Michelle was killed in her own home when a police detail was dispatched to her house on a mental health call. |
| 1:14.3 | This was five days after Mike Brown was killed in Ferguson. |
| 1:18.8 | Fran Garrett, the woman who was pictured in the video, was Michelle's mother. |
| 1:24.6 | Fran decided that she was not going to let the world forget or ignore the fact that her |
| 1:29.0 | daughter, Michelle Coussoe, was senselessly killed by the police. Fast forward three months later, |
| 1:36.3 | we're all in New York City. This time we're protesting the no bill against the killer of Eric Garner. |
| 1:43.3 | We're in a crowd of tens of thousands of people |
| 1:46.6 | marching, demanding justice, saying the names of Eric Garner, of Mike Brown, of Tamir Rice. |
| 1:54.2 | And some of us started saying the names of Michelle Kousseau and Tanisha Anderson, other black women who've been killed by the police. |
| 2:07.2 | The response to the people at the march told us everything we needed to know about the imperative behind say her name. |
| 2:14.8 | Now, a few people said that they were glad we were saying these names. They were |
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