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Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips

7 unorthodox things we'd do with our marketing, if we had to go back in time

Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips

Eric Siu and Neil Patel

Careers, Business, Marketing

4.6 β€’ 1.3K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Eric and Neil reflect on what they wish they’d done differently in their 2024 marketing strategies. They share candid lessons on outbound marketing, messaging pivots, and collaboration tactics that brought real results. Learn why doubling down on outbound email, revising your messaging early, and leveraging webinars, influencer partnerships, and podcasts can significantly impact growth. Plus, hear about the opportunities they missedβ€”and how you can avoid the same mistakes. TIMESTAMPS (00:00) What we wish we’d doubled down on in 2024 (06:30) The outbound process: gift cards, subdomains, and deliverability (14:00) Messaging mistakes and shifting to search everywhere optimization (20:00) Influence partners, paid speaking, and why collaboration matters (27:00) Why missed opportunities fuel next year’s marketing strategy 𝗔𝗕𝗒𝗨𝗧 π—§π—›π—˜ π—–π—›π—”π—‘π—‘π—˜π—Ÿ Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HOSTS Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel FREE RESOURCES Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/

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0:00.0

What do you wish you would have done differently with your own marketing if you could start over this year?

0:05.4

So imagine it's January 2025.

0:08.3

We already know what's happened for nine-ish months of the year, right?

0:11.9

Because we're in October now, but nine months are done.

0:14.2

What would you have done differently?

0:16.0

If I can pick one thing only?

0:18.2

You can pick three things.

0:19.6

Okay.

0:19.8

So this is not exactly marketing, but I wish we would just 20x our outbound. Like outbound's performing for us. And you want to break down your outbound process because it's the gift cards, right? Yeah. So it's gift cards. So the way what we do is we send 100, we offer $100 gift cards. Sorry to interrupt and you can start again. This is marketing. That is a form of marketing. I consider that sales, but you can call that marketing too.

0:41.4

Marketing. our gift cards. Sorry to interrupt and you can start again. This is marketing. That is a form of marketing. I consider that sales, but you can call that marketing too. Marketing our job is to

0:42.3

bring people to the point of sale. So I guess you can argue it's marketing too, but semantics.

0:47.3

So one of the things that we do is to, if I were to restart my marketing is we would 20X

0:53.6

what we're doing on the outbound email

0:55.2

side. And basically our TAM, our total addressable market is, let's say this one's a B2B market,

1:01.4

right? So there's 100,000 people, 100,000, you know, emails that we would send initially.

1:07.6

But maybe we're trying to hit our TAM,, our entire Tam, you know, maybe we're setting

1:13.1

like four emails a month. So maybe that's 400,000 emails. My whole thing is it's been generating

1:17.6

good meetings for us. And some of these are actually closing. And these are enterprises that have

1:22.6

raised a good chunk of money too. And so I'm just like, well, why don't we just do 20X of it if it's already doing really well? And maybe the town can't go 20x, but we should be doubling, tripling down on whatever's working. And that shouldn't come down to, I mean, once we see it working, like someone should just be like, oh, let's just do that more. Can you, can you break down what your process is so anyone listening can replicate? So we actually use an outside agency for this, but I'll break down their process because they actually reveal it too.

1:48.0

So they basically will create 60, call it 60 to 100 inboxes.

1:53.0

And this is interesting.

1:54.1

So they use female names.

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