7. Political Science

Cover Story

New York Magazine

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.2 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Meaghan gets a hold of the clinical trial data and she and Dave and Lily pull it apart. Why are the studies so small? What actually happens in the black box of therapy? Why can't the trial participants find their actual experience reflected anywhere in the published data? We look to MAPS for answers. CREDITS Cover Story is a production of New York magazine. Power trip is co-created, produced and reported by David Nickles and Lily Kay Ross. Our senior producers are Marianne McCune and Whitney Jones. Also produced by Tarkor Zehn, Liza Yeager, Noor Bouzidi, and iO Tillett Wright. Our executive producer and editor is Hanna Rosin. With additional editing help by Nichole Hill. Sound design and scoring by Brandon McFarland. Additional sound design by Sharif Youssef, who also mixed the show. Cover Story’s Theme music by Santigold. Additional music by Lynx DeMuth and John Ellis. Fact-checking by Britina Cheng and Ted Hart. Special thanks to legal minds Elissa Cohen, Jillian Robbins, and Samantha Mason. And also to Gaby Grossman and Nese Devenot. Power Trip is also produced with Psymposia, a non-profit watchdog group. For a deeper dive into some of these issues visit psymposia.com/powertrip. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, I wanted to quickly note at the top of the show that we are going to be
0:05.0	talking about sexual assault and suicide.
0:08.4	So please keep that in mind when you decide when and where to listen.
0:12.6	Also, to protect their identities, we've changed the names of some of the people that
0:16.9	we've interviewed.
0:19.5	So I want to take you back one more time to the talk that Megan gave about her experiences
0:25.4	in the map's clinical trial.
0:27.1	MDMA for me, give me a chance.
0:30.3	There she was looking like another poster woman for MDMA healing.
0:36.7	It is a highly effective treatment.
0:38.5	And feeling torn up inside about what was happening back on Cortez.
0:44.6	May we all look for our essence, thank you.
0:52.2	After she gave her talk something really important happened, she got into a conversation
0:56.5	with the man in charge of this whole research project.
1:01.5	Just a tiny bit to my intro.
1:03.6	Rick Doblin was talking at the same conference.
1:06.0	I sort of have always thought of myself as a counter culture drug using criminal.
1:13.6	And my mission has been to go legit.
1:17.6	She'd been asking herself a lot of different questions about the study and her own place
1:23.1	in it.
1:24.4	And she realized in this conversation that this was it, this was her opening.
1:29.1	So she asked Rick Doblin for the data from all the research sites in her clinical trial.
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