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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

7 Philosophies on the Future | Frankly 77

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Natural Sciences, Earth Sciences, Science

4.8552 Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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(Recorded November 12, 2024)

In last week's Frankly, Nate shared his thoughts on some of the polarities we'll need to harmonize as we journey towards a more uncertain world. As the holidays approach for many, we will face these "polarities" head-on in relationships with family, friends, and neighbors. How could imagining the different perspectives of others allow us to have more meaningful and empathic conversations about the future? 

In today's Frankly, Nate highlights seven views of the future and how broadening our awareness to include others' starting points might allow for greater discourse and understanding. How we view the future stems from what we care about and our expectations for humanity – from needing to stay focused solely on daily struggles to believing we're on an endless path towards living outside our own solar system. Perhaps an even bigger factor is whether we believe we can change the trajectory of the future or if our species is simply stuck on a predetermined outcome. 

How do common beliefs and fears for the future - such as colonizing Mars, degrowth, societal collapse, or climate catastrophes - shape our philosophies for the future? And while many of us may think that we have a strong synthesis of our economic, ecological, and geopolitical realities, why should we think that any one of us can predict the future with 100% certainty? Finally, how could we use these lenses when listening to others - and take a first step in a likely "bend not break" future?  

 

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0:00.0

Greetings. We talk a lot on this podcast about the future, about energy, about the economy,

0:07.7

about money, about geopolitics, about the environment and the planetary boundaries,

0:14.0

mostly using facts and synthesis and description. We also talk about what people care about. People have different value systems.

0:22.6

But I think there's a different categories of the philosophical viewing of the future.

0:30.6

And I've come up with seven categories and I'd briefly like to describe these because I don't think we can assume that everyone

0:39.5

else views the future in the same logical philosophical framework that we do.

0:46.7

So firstly, in recent presentations, we don't all care about the same thing.

0:52.0

Some people, a lot of people care about the rich nations or the rich

0:56.5

people in the nations. And that's their focus when they look at the future. There are others

1:03.4

that care about materially, as opposed to spiritually or psychically poorer countries and

1:10.0

poor people in countries.

1:12.6

Another group of people and these groups overlap

1:17.6

care about other species and the ecosystems of our one blue-green earth.

1:22.6

And others, or at a deeper level, there are people who care about other generations, the unborn of

1:30.3

our species and other species on this planet, 100 years from now, a thousand years from now,

1:36.2

a million years from now. So when we think about what's going to happen in the future,

1:41.3

we already care about different things. But how do we even

1:45.8

think about the future? Here are seven categories. The first category is they don't. A lot of people

1:55.2

alive today and for most of our past are so busy focusing on putting food on the table and having safety

2:02.8

and warmth and shelter and basic needs that the future is basically tomorrow or even tonight.

2:08.7

They can't even conceive of five years from now or a hundred years from now because they're

2:15.3

fully focused on meeting the needs of the present.

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