7. Animal Urine
The Economics of Everyday Things
Freakonomics Network
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🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 12 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | On a recent Monday morning, I found myself comparing aromatic notes with a true connoisseur of sorts. |
| 0:10.5 | When you're in this business, you know, you have a lot of opportunities to smell things. |
| 0:14.8 | They each have a very unique aroma. |
| 0:20.6 | I've often thought to describe it the way wine is described. |
| 0:26.0 | Mountain Lion is my favorite. |
| 0:28.6 | It has a very unique burnt umber smell. |
| 0:33.0 | The wolf has the darkest color. |
| 0:36.2 | The smell is rich, and it has, I would say, notes of earth. |
| 0:43.2 | You make it sound so great. |
| 0:46.2 | Well, I can't help it, you know, in a crude way. To me, it's the smell of money. |
| 0:53.2 | This expert, smeller, his name is Ken Johnson, but in certain circles, he goes by a different moniker. |
| 1:01.2 | Well, I'm known as the Pea Man. I started and operate predator p.com. |
| 1:07.6 | Johnson sells a product that is generated every day in huge quantities. |
| 1:13.1 | Most of us think of it as waste, but where one man sees animal urine, another man sees treasure. |
| 1:24.1 | It's really the ultimate recycling. |
| 1:27.3 | You take something that would normally be just disposed of and put it to work in a way that's natural. |
| 1:35.7 | For the Freakonomics Radio Network, this is the Economics of Everyday Things. |
| 1:40.2 | I'm Zachary Crackett. |
| 1:41.6 | Today, animal urine. |
| 1:44.6 | As a kid in New Jersey, Ken Johnson loved the outdoors. |
| 1:49.0 | The first chance he got, he moved to one of America's most rugged states to study forestry |
| 1:53.8 | at the University of Maine. After school, he stayed up there. He found his way into the ad business |
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