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forward slash express. Phil Mackey, Judd Zolgad. Guys, that can make a difference. Guys,

that can give you that spark. Guys will give you something just a little bit different. Mackie and Judd on 1500 ESPN.

Mackie and Judd today is Olga and Myron Metcalf.

ESPN, ESPN.com, ESPN Radio, all those platforms.

We are in the TCL broadcast studios, as always.

All right, before we talk about the wolves, I can't help myself.

And I don't want to...

I'm trying to be as...

How can I put this?

As diplomatic as possible, because it's not funny,

because there is a person who's dead here.

But you just found something, I believe, on the Twitter.

Can you describe it for us?

Well, there's a young man, Renard Matthews, who I guess was killed a couple weeks ago.

18 years old, that's obviously tragic.

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