7/8/22 John Kiriakou on Vault 7, Robert Grenier and Bin Laden’s Escape at Tora Bora

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Scott Horton

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4.8 • 902 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2022

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Scott is joined by CIA officer turned whistleblower turned political commentator John Kiriakou to discuss the trial of Joshua Schulte, the man accused of leaking the CIA’s Vault 7 program to Wikileaks. Schulte denies being involved in the leak. His next trial is fast approaching. Kiriakou explains how the Justice Department also accused Schulte of having child pornography on his computer, although they walked it back when the judge requested they actually press charges. Scott and Kiriakou discuss past cases where the U.S. government weaponized false allegations of sexual crimes against whistleblowers. They then get into a discussion about former CIA officer Robert Grenier who Kiriakou worked with. He talks about their falling out. And any discussion of Robert Grenier is inevitably going to include Bin Laden’s escape into Pakistan at Tora Bora in December of 2001. Scott goes through some of the best books on the topic and Kiriakou gives his account of that critical time period from inside the Agency. Discussed on the show: “A Whistleblower’s Agony” (Scheer Post) Kiriakou’s books @innercitypress on Twitter Robert Grenier’s post-Jan 6th interview on NPR 88 Days to Kandahar by Robert Grenier Jawbreaker by Gary Berntsen Kill Bin Laden by Dalton Fury/Thomas Greer “This Air Force commando called in 688,000 pounds of bombs in one battle” (Task & Purpose) Bush at War by Bob Woodward John Kiriakou is a former CIA officer and author of The Convenient Terrorist: Two Whistleblowers’ Stories of Torture, Terror, Secret Wars, and CIA Lies and Doing Time Like A Spy. He is the host of Loud and Clear on Sputnik Radio. Follow him on Twitter @JohnKiriakou. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	All right, y'all welcome to the Scott Horton's show.
0:02.0	I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute.
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0:45.0	All right, you all on the line, I have got John Kiriaku.
0:50.0	He used to be a CIA analyst, and then he was a CIA officer operative type and then he went
0:56.8	to prison for saying some true things about their torture program they don't like that if he
1:02.2	tortured people he'd have had full immunity,
1:04.6	you know. But talking about it, that'll get you in trouble. And he's a writer now.
1:09.2	Oh, I forget, I'm sorry, correct me in a second about your show and where it's on and when I sure get but he is the author of
1:18.8	Surveillance and Surveillance detection a CIA insider's guide,
1:23.6	how to disappear and live off the grid,
1:26.8	a CIA insiders guide.
1:28.6	I sure hope you're not just entrapping people on that one.
1:31.9	They say that you're once you're CIA you're always CIA even
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