699: The Limits of Liberalism & Punishing Immigrants with Matthew Soerens
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.5 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 10 December 2025
⏱️ 93 minutes
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Summary
Two writers from the New York Times say the liberal values that have flooded our culture with online gambling, pornography, and cannabis have backfired, but secular progressives, like Ezra Klein, admit that they don't have a framework for explaining why. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the benefits and limitations of liberalism as a political and social philosophy, and why those on the left are increasingly aware of their need for religion. Matthew Soerens from World Relief is back to discuss why the Trump administration's immigration policies are so different in his second term, how the President's ever-changing rhetoric is causing chaos, and why America is accepting the collective punishment of immigrants. Also this week, raccoons are on a mission to be the pets of the future.
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0:00 - Show Starts
4:45 - Theme Song
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7:40 - Racoons Got Cuter!
14:35 - Ross Douthet on Liberalism's Failures
28:45 - The Economy Can't Form Ethics
41:30 - Black and Latino Voices
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54:57 - Interview
57:03 - Afghanistan and Immigration
1:03:07 - Dehumanizing Rhetoric
1:21:12 - Christian Persecution and Immigration
1:31:14 - End Credits
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. Two writers from the New York Times say that liberal values that have |
| 0:05.0 | flooded our culture with online gambling, pornography, and cannabis have backfired. But secular |
| 0:10.9 | progressives like Ezra Klein admit that they don't have a framework for explaining why. |
| 0:16.6 | Today, Phil Caitlin and I talk about the benefits and the limits of liberalism as a political |
| 0:21.7 | and social philosophy and why those on the left are increasingly aware of their need for religion. |
| 0:28.0 | Then Matthew Sorens from World Relief is back to discuss why the Trump administration's |
| 0:31.9 | immigration policies are so different in his second term, how the president's ever-changing |
| 0:37.0 | rhetoric is causing chaos, |
| 0:38.8 | and why America seems to be accepting the idea of collective punishment against immigrants. |
| 0:44.4 | Also this week, raccoons are on a mission to be the pets of the future. |
| 0:48.7 | Since we're talking about immigration this week, I want you all to be aware of a special |
| 0:52.4 | initiative happening this month. |
| 0:59.5 | Gabe Selgaro, who's my friend, a Holy Postpundit, a pastor, and the president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition, has launched an awareness campaign called hashtag Advent Welcome, |
| 1:06.0 | to remind Christians about the connection between the birth of Christ and the struggles |
| 1:10.1 | immigrants in our |
| 1:10.9 | country are facing today. |
| 1:12.7 | They've created a toolkit of resources for churches and church leaders during the season, |
| 1:17.0 | including sermon outlines, talking points, graphics, and online posts to help your community |
| 1:22.2 | learn what scripture teaches about our obligation to our neighbors, to foreigners, and to those in need. |
| 1:28.6 | We're going to include links in the show notes to all those resources so that you can |
| 1:32.3 | follow the campaign and share those resources with leaders in your Christian community. |
| 1:37.1 | To follow along on the campaign on social media, use the hashtag Advent Welcome. |
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