699: The Food Labels You Trust Are Lying to You | Dr. Autumn Smith
The Jesse Chappus Show
Jesse Chappus
4.6 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 7 April 2026
⏱️ 105 minutes
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Dr. Autumn Smith is the co-founder of Paleovalley and Wild Pastures, a functional nutrition expert, and a leading voice in regenerative food and metabolic health.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on today's show. |
| 0:02.0 | Food is a photograph of the land and the system from which it came. |
| 0:05.9 | And these new advanced techniques are giving scientists the ability to really zoom in on how |
| 0:10.6 | they change. |
| 0:11.4 | And then the next step is how exactly does that impact human health? |
| 0:14.8 | We found even 30,000 compounds just in beef alone. |
| 0:18.7 | They changed dramatically based on the production system. There's this paper that |
| 0:23.1 | came out in 2019. They looked at the grass-fed beef available and the fatty acid ratios, |
| 0:28.7 | and they found that up to 26 to 1, all the way down to 2-1, in the same grass-fed category. |
| 0:34.2 | Grass-fed is not necessarily grass-finished. I think that's what people need to |
| 0:38.3 | understand. And when it comes to chickens, there's that whole vital farms controversy. |
| 0:42.3 | Pasture raised, there isn't really a super clear definition about what that means. When it comes to |
| 0:48.1 | cage-free, animals can be out of a cage and still in a warehouse. And free range, it just kind of |
| 0:53.4 | requires that there is a door |
| 0:54.8 | to the outdoors, not necessarily a pasture even. You just have to be really careful. There's this |
| 0:59.7 | illusion of choice whenever you go into a grocery store, right? The truth is, there's like four |
| 1:04.8 | companies in the meat industry that own 85% of the processing. It's a highly, highly consolidated market. |
| 1:14.0 | Autumn, what would you say is the biggest mistake you see people making when they think |
| 1:18.5 | they're eating healthy? Oh, not paying attention to food quality. I think it's really, it's a lot |
| 1:23.2 | simpler than we've made it, rather than counting macros and obsessing over other smaller details |
| 1:30.2 | of the diet. I think just if you eat whole foods, high quality animal products, whole foods, |
| 1:35.3 | one ingredient foods, food your grandmother would recognize. I think you can be a lot simpler |
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