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That's right. Your ears do not deceive you. I'm back on the podcast. Thank you so much for

tuning in. This one is very near and dear to my heart. Once again, got to talk to my mom,

but I don't want to do it without the man you've come to know and love here on

dogma debate. Michael Regilio is right here in the studio joining me what's up man?

Thanks for having me. Well okay I'm not having you we're we're having each other.

Oh that's somehow worse we're not having each no no I'm glad you're here man I so

this for me I guess what I'm learning in my, you know,

semi-partial retirement from the podcast is that the stuff I really want to talk about on the show is the stuff that's really, really personal to me.

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