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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#696: How Peer Review Became a Weapon with Jessica Rose & Kevin McKernan

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8804 Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2025

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Jessica Rose and Kevin McKernan to discuss the coordinated attacks on their vaccine contamination research, the corrupt peer review system designed to suppress inconvenient science, and how Bitcoin and Nostr can create a censorship-resistant alternative for publishing.

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

0:23.5

currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.8

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.4

Jessica Kevin, welcome back to the show.

0:39.3

Both of you at the same time, this is a first.

0:43.3

I'm very excited for this conversation.

0:45.3

Yeah, it's no time.

0:47.3

Yeah, thanks for having us back.

0:51.3

Well, I wanted to do it earlier this summer, but you two were busy when the paper that you co-authored was presented as evidence in a hearing on the Hill, which I was very excited to see.

1:08.3

Jessica, you and I recorded about the quantification of residual plasmid DNA and SV40

1:14.2

promoter-enhancer sequences in the Pfizer, Biontech, and Moderna vaccines.

1:21.7

I guess, just for my selfish, the selfish inner beast in me.

1:28.3

What is the last four months for YouTube been since that hearing?

1:32.3

That was pretty profound.

1:34.3

It's been four months? My God.

1:37.3

Well, a lot of the same, actually.

1:42.3

It's weird that, well, I can speak for myself and say that it's very weird

1:49.9

spending so many hours of the day responding to trolls and emails about having your work investigated and, you know, requests to do interviews with, you know, various and sundry people like Retraction Watch, for example.

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