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Michael and Us

#693 - Police State

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Society & Culture

4.5696 Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In 1968, Frederick Wiseman embedded with the Kansas City Police Department. He emerged with LAW AND ORDER (1969), a sobering portrait of what it meant to "serve and protect" at the dawn of the Nixon era. We mark Frederick Wiseman's passing by discussing one of his quintessential films. PLUS: We check in on our fallen British comrades (ex-)Prince Andrew and Keir Starmer. JOIN US ON PATREON FOR AN EXTRA EPISODE EVERY WEEK - https://www.patreon.com/posts/693-police-state-151400135

Transcript

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0:00.0

Bad boys, bad boys, what you're going to do, what you're going to do when they come for you.

0:05.4

Bad boys, bad boys, what you're going to do, what you're going to do when they come for you.

0:11.0

Welcome to Michael and us. I'm Will Sloan here as always with.

0:14.1

Luke Savage, welcome back, everyone.

0:15.8

I don't know if you have this problem that I sometimes have of trying to figure out, because I get so much news on social media,

0:22.1

unfortunately, and now I have to do like a 10-step vetting process with every surprising headline I

0:28.8

see to make sure that it's true. So a couple days ago, there was a post going around from an account

0:34.0

called at Pop Drug. Sounds like a credible source to me so far.

0:38.6

All the news that's fit to print, they say.

0:40.9

It had a little siren emoji, and it said,

0:43.7

Katie Perry and Justin Trudeau are expecting their first child together.

0:47.7

Man, I saw the exact same tweet last night while we were out.

0:52.0

We were at the Maddie actually watching the the nDP leadership

0:55.3

debate and i saw that on my phone and i was like really and then i was like oh wait a minute i'm glad

1:00.3

you had the same reaction because i saw some people responding to it earnestly responding to it as

1:05.6

if it was actual news and i thought to myself wait is this news this could be amusing could be amusing. I hope this is true. It would be

1:12.4

fun if this was true. So of course, I do a Google news search and find no, no one is reporting

1:18.2

this. Nobody even more reputable than at Pop Drug is reporting this. So that's not true. But then

1:25.0

the next morning, I saw that ex-Prince Andrew was arrested, and I thought,

1:29.8

ha, fool me once. Fool me once. I'm not going to be fooled again. Well, it turns out that one

1:35.1

actually was true. Ex-Prince Andrew was arrested for some Jeffrey Epstein-related misconduct.

1:41.6

I know as our resident Anglophile, this is probably hitting you hard,

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