692 - Crafting the Perfect Villain
Scriptnotes Podcast
John August
4.8 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2025
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
In this craft compendium, John and Craig take a look at everything you need to make your bad guys compelling, memorable, and the perfect antagonist for your story. Using some favorite villains as examples, they look at the importance of understanding their motivations and offer seven tips for making a villain unforgettable.
We also take a look at lackeys, henchmen and making sure your evil organizations are believable.
In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig shift their focus to monsters, and why even though those scary creatures are dangerous, they’re not always the villain.
Links:
- Scriptnotes Episode 75 – Villains
- Scriptnotes Episode 590 – Anti-Villains
- Scriptnotes Episode 465 – The Lackeys Know What They’re Doing
- Scriptnotes Episode 257 – Flaws are Features
- Every Villain is a Hero
- Writing Better Bad Guys
- Screenwriting and the Problem of Evil
- Mama
- The 1000 Deaths of Wile E. Coyote by T.B.D.
- Why do good people do bad things? by Daniel Effron
- Why some people are willing to challenge behavior they see as wrong despite personal risk by Catherine A. Sanderson
- The Monsters Know What They’re Doing blog and book
- Austin Powers deleted scene, “Henchman’s Wife”
- Redshirt
- 7 Tips for Creating Unforgettable Villains
- How Christopher Nolan writes a movie on our YouTube!
- Get a Scriptnotes T-shirt!
- Check out the Inneresting Newsletter
- Become a Scriptnotes Premium member, or gift a subscription
- Subscribe to Scriptnotes on YouTube
- Craig Mazin on Instagram
- John August on Bluesky and Instagram
- Outro by Matthew Chilelli (send us yours!)
- Segments produced by Stuart Friedel, Megana Rao, and Drew Marquardt.
- Scriptnotes is produced by Drew Marquardt and edited by Matthew Chilelli.
Email us at ask@johnaugust.com
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome. My name is John August, and you are listening to Episode 692 of Script Notes. |
| 0:07.0 | It's a podcast about screenwriting and things that are interesting to screenwriters. Today on the show, |
| 0:11.2 | it is a Villains Compendium. Producer Drew Markport has selected four segments from previous shows |
| 0:15.8 | where we celebrate the bad guys. Drew, tell us what we're going to hear today. |
| 0:20.1 | Ooh, so we are going to start with episode 75 and get kind of like a Villains 101, |
| 0:25.8 | how our bad guys operate in a story. Then we're going to go to episode 590, which is anti-villains, |
| 0:31.8 | sort of understanding your villain's motivation with a dozen examples of famous villains and sort of |
| 0:36.1 | what makes them tick. I will say here, when we talk about Annie Wilkes, |
| 0:40.3 | John, you mentioned that you say something like, |
| 0:42.4 | I don't know if she would have been a bad guy, |
| 0:43.8 | if she hadn't found the car in the snow. |
| 0:46.3 | And we later followed up that, yes, it's established |
| 0:49.2 | that she murdered babies, I think, before that. |
| 0:51.7 | In her past life as a nurse. |
| 0:53.3 | Yeah, we don't need to do any follow-up on that. |
| 0:54.9 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 0:55.4 | Don't write it again. |
| 0:56.6 | Please don't. |
| 0:57.5 | Then we'll go to episode 465 about lackeys and henchmen |
| 1:00.8 | and making sure that your evil organizations are believable. |
| 1:04.3 | And then we'll finish up with episode 257 |
| 1:07.1 | with our seven tips for unforgettable villains. |
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