690: Flying Bishops, Evangelical Ignorance, & Slow Theology with A.J. Swoboda & Nijay Gupta
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.5 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 8 October 2025
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
For the first time ever, the U.K. has appointed a woman as the Archbishop of Canterbury to lead the global Anglican Communion. Kaitlyn, Skye, and Mike Erre discuss the implications of appointment and how Anglicans use "flying bishops" to maintain unity over divisive theological issues. Are there lessons here for other divided Christian communities? The latest "State of Theology" report shows a shocking number of evangelicals hold contradictory beliefs. Why are evangelical churches so bad at teaching the Bible and theology? Kaitlyn talks with A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta, co-authors of "Slow Theology," about how our cultural addiction to speed and quick answers actually fuels spiritual disillusionment and deconstruction. Also this week—new data shows why most female animals outlive males.
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0:00 - Show Starts
3:08 - Theme Song
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6:11 - Men Die Sooner Than Women!
14:22 - Women Can Be Archbishops?
36:15 - Why Don't Evangelicals Know Theology?
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55:55 - Interview
56:17 - Why Slow Theology?
59:50 - Deconstruction as Chemotherapy
1:13:17 - Orthodoxy for Power Rather Than Obedience
1:27:02 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Why Women Live Longer:
https://www.mpg.de/25470066/0926-evan-why-women-live-longer-than-men-150495-x
Anglican Church Tension Over Woman as New Archbishop:
Study Shows Evangelicals Don't Know Theology:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/10/state-of-theology-evangelicals-confused-conflicted-belief/
Other Resources:
Slow Theology: Eight Practices for Resilient Faith in a Turbulent World (A Guide to Deep Faith in Our Busy Modern Lives) by A. J. Swoboda and Nijay K. Gupta:
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. For the first time ever, the UK has appointed a woman as the Archbishop of Canterbury to lead the global Anglican Communion. |
| 0:08.9 | Caitlin, Mike Erie, and I discuss the implications of the appointment and how Anglicans use flying bishops to maintain their unity over divisive theological issues. |
| 0:18.6 | Are there lessons here for the rest of the divided Christian church? |
| 0:22.2 | The latest state of theology report shows a shocking number of evangelicals hold contradictory |
| 0:26.8 | beliefs. Why are evangelical churches so bad at teaching the Bible and theology? Then Caitlin |
| 0:33.0 | talks to A.J. Swaboda and Nijey Gupta, co-authors of Slow Theology, about how our cultural |
| 0:39.2 | addiction to speed and quick answers actually fuel spiritual disillusionment and deconstruction. |
| 0:45.4 | Also this week, new data shows why most female animals outlive males. We've got some big news |
| 0:51.7 | before we jump into the episode. A new live show recording is coming up later this month featuring all four Holy Post media hosts. |
| 0:59.3 | That's Phil Visher, Caitlin Chess, Esau McCauley, and me. |
| 1:03.0 | The live show is on October 25th in Lombard, Illinois. |
| 1:06.5 | That's in the western suburbs of Chicago. |
| 1:09.0 | Tickets are now on sale for the event. |
| 1:10.9 | So if you want to meet us, participate in a live recording |
| 1:13.8 | and connect with other Holy Posters, this is your chance. |
| 1:17.7 | Go to holypost.com slash events for the details |
| 1:20.7 | and to get your tickets before they're gone. |
| 1:23.5 | That's holypost.com slash events. |
| 1:26.6 | Here is episode 690. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Holy Post. |
| 1:31.2 | I'm Sky Jatani. I am here without Phil Visher again. Phil was sick last week. He was sick last week, |
| 1:38.0 | and now he's on vacation. I feel like he's just avoiding us. Yeah. And now Caitlin is gone too. |
| 1:44.2 | I know. Caitlin is beaming in. Yeah. And now Caitlin is gone too. I know. |
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