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The History of the Christian Church

69-The Not So Great After All Schism

The History of the Christian Church

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 28 December 2014

⏱️ 10 minutes

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The title of this episode of CS is The Not-So Great After All Schism.At the end of our last episode, a Frenchman, the Archbishop of Bordeaux was elected by the College of Cardinals in 1305 as Pope Clement. But Clement never set foot in Rome, because the locus of political power had shifted to France and her King, Philip.  This marks the beginning of what’s called the Babylonian Captivity of the Papacy, a 72–year long period when France dominated the papacy. After Clement, the next 6 Popes, all French, made their headquarters in Avignon, France rather than Rome. Though it began as a small town when Clement first located there, over the next 70 years it grew to a population of some 80,000, nearly all of them associated in some way with the Church bureaucracy.This transfer of the papacy from Rome to France had a profound impact on the way all Europe came to see both the Pope and the leadership of the Church. Rome was the Eternal City. The Church of Rome, with the Pope as its bishop, went all the way back to Peter. That’s why people regarded it as special; why it called the shots for everyone else. If the Pope no longer sat in Rome, if he could now reside in some other church, what did that say about his authority? Was he indeed Peter’s successor? Was he truly The Vicar of Christ? And what did it mean when the Pope seemed to be little more than the political mouthpiece for the King of France?While the French enjoyed having the Pope close to home, the rest of Europe didn’t find it much to their liking. The duchies and other regions of what would later be called Germany in particular resented it, being in constant tension with their French neighbors.A good part of the hostility toward the Avignon papacy revolved around the abuse of money. Since the Papal States in Italy were no longer contributing, the papacy nearly went bankrupt. To replace lost income, French popes employed a slew of schemes. There were fees for this and taxes for that. Whenever a new bishop was appointed, his first year’s income went to the Pope. Veteran bishops were transferred between churches, so the Pope could start the process all over again. Sometimes no bishop would be appointed so the entire income went to Avignon.The most lucrative practice was the granting of indulgences. These were passed out for just about any reason; any venture the Church figured was in its interest. From minor public works to war could earn someone an indulgence. And what the indulgences earned those they were granted, grew as time passed. The common people, who couldn’t afford to purchase such spiritual extravagances, and trusted in a more sincere form of devotion, saw all of this as a gross departure from the path of genuine righteousness. Bitter feelings toward Avignon grew, especially when the Pope demanded an increase in revenue under the threat of excommunication. Hell was for un-repentant sinners, not people who couldn’t afford to pay ever more taxes and fees.By 1360, the outcry over the French domination of the Church made it clear the Avignon papacy could not continue. But no one foresaw the incredible events a return to Rome would bring.In 1377, the elderly Pope Gregory XI re-entered Rome. But the joy that attended the re-establishment of the papacy there was short-lived. Gregory died within a year. The College of Cardinals, still filled by Frenchmen, yielded to the clamor of a Roman mob and chose an Italian. On Easter Sunday, April 18, Urban VI was crowned as the new Vicar of Christ. As the next months unfolded, it became clear Urban was a harsh dictator. The Cardinals had second thoughts about his election. In August, they announced that in their earlier decision, a mob had forced the selection of an apostate and the proceedings were invalid.End of Round One.A month later, the so-called apostate Pope Urban VI fired off Round Two by creating a new College of Cardinals. The sitting College, dominated by French cardinals, chose a new Po

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0:00.0

Welcome to the History of the Christian Church, Season 1 with Lance Rolston.

0:13.2

The title of this episode is The Not So Great After All schism.

0:19.0

At the end of our last episode, a Frenchman, the Archbishop

0:23.0

of Bordeaux, was elected by the College of Cardinals in 1305 as Pope Clement. But Clement,

0:28.7

as I mentioned, never set foot in Rome, because the locus of political power had shifted to France

0:33.6

and her king, Philip. This marks the beginning of what's called the Babylonian

0:37.8

captivity of the papacy, a 72-year-long period when France dominated the papacy. After Clement,

0:44.4

the next six popes, all French, made their headquarters at Avignon, in France, rather than in Rome.

0:51.3

Though it began as a small town when Clement first located there, over the next 70 years

0:55.7

it grew to a population of some 80,000, nearly all of them associated in some way or another with

1:01.3

the church bureaucracy. This transfer of the papacy from Rome to France had a profound impact on the

1:07.2

way that all of Europe came to see both the Pope and the leadership of the Church.

1:11.6

Rome was the Eternal City.

1:13.6

The Church of Rome, with the Pope as its bishop, went all the way back to Peter.

1:18.6

That's why people regarded it as special, why it called the shots for everyone else.

1:23.6

But if the Pope no longer sat in Rome, if he could now reside in some other church,

1:29.3

well, what did that say about his authority? Was he indeed Peter's successor? Was he truly

1:35.0

the vicar of Christ? And what did it mean when the Pope seemed to be a little more than the

1:39.7

political mouthpiece of the King of France? While the French enjoyed having the Pope close to home,

1:45.5

the rest of Europe didn't find it much to their liking. The Duchies and other regions

1:50.6

of what later would be called Germany in particular resented it, being in constant tension

1:55.4

with their French neighbors. A good part of the hostility towards the Avignon Papacy

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