It's time for episode 69 of the Clockwise podcast from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, January 7th, 2015.

Clockwise, four guests, four tech topics, 30 minutes.

Welcome back to Clockwise, the Tech Podcast, where there's no time like the present.

I'm your co-host, Dan Moran, and across the country from me, as always, is my co-host, Jason Snell.

Happy 2015, Jason.

Howdy, Dan. It's good to hear your voice in a new year.

It is. It feels like it's been a year since we last did this show.

So in a way, it has. And thanks to everybody out there for coming back. We've rested control of the podcast away from Philip Michaels and his pundit showdown. And now we are back to normal. Dan,

would you like to introduce our first guest? I would love to freshly minted as the new head of business development

at Black Pixel. It's Jesse Char. Hi, Jesse. Hello. Welcome back. You have a title, Jesse, or is that

it's business development lead? Oh, lead. Sorry. I, L-H, I can't spell. It's okay. I never learned.

It's fine. It involves business development anyway.

To my left is our old colleague and pal, and now the gear and Apple editor at the

wirecutter.

It's another Dan, Dan, Dan, Franks.

Hi, Dan.

Hey, guys, glad to be here.

And girls.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's right.

Right. Get it. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Right.

...