Is the Ohio River the one at Cuyahoga Valley that was like...

No, the one that lit on fire?

Yeah.

That's the Cuyahoga River.

Oh, is it?

It's not the Ohio River. Okay, I was like, oh, I don't know how much you'd want to be canoeing in there. This is the Exploring the National Parks Podcast with Dirt in My Shoes. My name is Ash and I'm a former park ranger and the founder of Dirt in My Shoes.

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We're sharing our favorite places, fun facts, adventures, and misadventures.

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So I got this email this morning that made me pretty grumpy.

So we have been planning to do this episode today for a while.

Right.

And we want to talk about the next national park contenders, right?

The ones that people are saying that may become national parks next. I don't know. Who knows when? Right. It's kind of an exciting conversation sometimes.

You have to, like, you think who, which monuments are up and coming or which ones have the most

visitation sometimes and things like that.

Right. So we have been wanting to do this episode, but I'm like, okay, we got to wait until there's like a break in Congress or they're not actually going to pass anything. We got to make sure

so that it doesn't. How sad would that be if we talk about all these national park contenders

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