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The Rest Is Politics

69. François Hollande on Putin, Obama, and Brexit

The Rest Is Politics

Goalhanger

News, Politics, Government

4.511.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In a special guest episode, we speak to former French president François Hollande from his office in Paris. Tune in to hear his views on Putin, Xi Jinping, Merkel, Macron, the far right, the importance of political parties and much, much more. Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, enjoy ad-free listening, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics Email: restispolitics@gmail.com Producers: Dom Johnson + Theo Young-Smith Exec Producer: Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to another special edition of The Restless Politics with me, Alistair Campbell in Paris.

0:13.3

And me, Rory Stewart, somewhere a very long way in Kenya, up in Northern Kenya.

0:19.2

And we're very pleased to have our first president, our first president of the Republic of France,

0:27.2

welcome François Hollande.

0:29.2

Thank you for your invitation.

0:31.2

It's really nice to have you.

0:33.4

And I want to start with what you think about what is happening right now in my country.

0:40.4

And La politique britannique.

0:43.2

It's difficult to speak about another country than France for me.

0:47.4

But I don't want to give lessons.

0:49.9

So difficult in France that can forgive what happened in Red Britain.

0:56.7

But it's a surprise to have five prime minister in five years, six years.

1:02.7

It's a splendid performance.

1:04.6

So it's not a joke.

1:06.6

It's a pity that the country like Red Britain has an instability.

1:12.4

We need stability in this moment because of the war in Ukraine,

1:17.0

because of the energetic crisis.

1:19.7

We need Red Britain in a good direction.

1:22.8

So I hope that now you can work with Europe.

1:27.7

You've just published a book, Blue Versaume, which I guess the English translation is probably upheavals, shocks.

1:35.4

And you have a chapter on Brexit and Trump.

1:40.7

And there's a fascinating account of when David Cameron said to you and Angela Merkel,

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