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People I (Mostly) Admire

69. Does Death Have to Be a Death Sentence?

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Palliative physician B.J. Miller asks: Is there a better way to think about dying? And can death be beautiful?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Today's episode is one of my all-time favorites.

0:10.6

Steven Dubner also loved it so much so that he asked if he could use it as an episode

0:15.4

of Freakonomics Radio where it aired last December.

0:19.0

Today, though for the first time, this episode is back where it belongs, and it's right

0:24.2

for home here at People I Mostly Admire.

0:34.9

If there's one topic that nobody wants to talk about, it's death.

0:39.1

So it tells you something that my guest today, BJ Miller, has a TED talk on dying that has

0:44.2

garnered nearly 15 million views.

0:47.6

Simply put, BJ thinks that our society's approach to dying is completely wrong, and he's

0:52.6

on a crusade to change the way we die.

0:55.4

He's a physician who's seen over and over how our medical system fails people at the end

1:00.8

of life.

1:01.8

If you care about the quality of your own death or the death of your loved ones, you

1:05.7

owe it to yourself to hear what BJ has to say.

1:09.9

We're sacrificing anything we might resemble a quality of life for this potential for

1:13.9

a few more minutes on the planet, and that's a tricky bargain.

1:20.5

Welcome to People I Mostly Admire, with Steve Levitt.

1:25.6

BJ Miller is a palliative care physician who's worked at the University of California, San

1:31.5

Francisco's Cancer Center.

1:33.3

He's taught at the medical there, and he's worked with the San hospice project in San Francisco.

1:38.4

He knows he's patients through an organization he started to help provide support and guidance

1:42.8

to the terminal ill.

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