This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altiger Show.

Today on the James Altiger Show.

Part one was earlier today of Cal's experiences with Larry King, the legendary radio show host.

And I didn't know Larry King had to go over 60,000 people.

There's a lot to learn from someone who did that. But Cal also learned so much personal stuff by spending 13 years having breakfast every day, going to his shows.

Anyway, we'll let Cal describe some of it's pretty intense.

This is part two. Part one was available today as well. Enjoy.

So again, like how did you end up having two, three infinite breakfast with him every day? Like how did you get into his so deep into his inner circle?

He's you're sitting next to him on a shows.

So what happened was I did this what I've learned interview with him when he got to a place where he was one of the most famous people on the planet.

This is right around maybe the year 2000 or so.

It was a great interview really memorable and that story of Lady Forley in the horse.

That's what appeared in the S. Square, what I've learned column.

And it wasn't in my view like I just sent.

I was usually when I would send my stories in they were so crafted.

It's like the way Hitchcock makes movies where Hitchcock didn't want the editor messing with his movie.

So he would only shoot exactly what he wanted.

And then basically the actors knew like you got a nail at this way so that when it went to the editor they had no choice.

But to adhere to Hitchcock's vision.

And that's the way I basically tried to handle the what I've learned columns where I would get all this information and I would assemble them almost cinematically.

Because you can really influence a story by putting one fact at the top and another in the middle and another at the bottom.

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