688 - Best Laid Plans With Sarah Hart Unger
Organize 365 Podcast
Lisa Woodruff
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 12 December 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Are you ready to hear all about Sarah Hart Unger's new book, "Best Laid Plans"? I learned new things from reading it and in this podcast I hope you too learn new ways to make yourself more efficient. Then grab your copy of her book. There are few people who love to plan as much as me and Sarah is one of them. Sarah shared all about planning with school aged children, how she's overcoming distractions and how to still dream.
Closed Systems Input
She had me by page 14! She was talking about all the input from closed systems that we are all overwhelmed with between an organization's app, Whatsapp, school apps, etc. It'd be nice if they all talked to each other…or would it be? I was so excited Grayson's school was able to populate my google calendar till I realized it was all events for the school. I guess I liked it better with manual entry but then we discussed there has to be a cadence to checking all the closed systems and knowing where to put it in your trusted system so you will see it when you need to. We also talked about the cognitive load and admin time it takes to collect all of the information that needs to be on the calendar. And for the love, people, plan your planning time; don't just try to work it into the nooks and cranny of your day.
Long Range Planning
Sarah offered such a powerful way to think of long range planning. Start with thinking of how old your children will be, you will be, and how you want life to look by that time. It's effective to zoom out to a bird's eye view to get a different perspective of time passing. I really loved that way of planning for the future and planning the next 5 years. She suggested thinking of milestones or big birthdays and how do you want to celebrate them? She envisioned a celebration which included travel for her 20th anniversary and now they are headed to HI next year to do just that. What you think about you bring about. Sarah did hers for travel but you could do it for your career, a PhD, your family, living location, type of house, or anything else.
Time Blocking
We learned something interesting here, I retroactively fill in how I spent my time if there's a blank space as a reminder to myself and my family that I did act as the wife, mother, and grandmother while I pursue my career and passions. And Sarah retroactively fills in her media use to hold herself accountable even podcasts she may have listened to. She got a gold star for having documented listening to the Organize 365® Podcast.
Time Sucks
Sarah shared that she doesn't have social media because she cannot trust herself on it. Some people can't have a little bit of chocolate and she cannot have a little bit of social media. Although we both laughed how we somehow got sucked into Reddit! I shared how I will be filling my old PhD time slot with the gym. Sarah said yes, to replace a time suck with something that you want to start to do or something more productive like audio books. We all have to fill our cups and you could be filling your cup instead of wasting time.
Planner Privilege
So imagine (these are general observations) the wife says "Let's plan next weekend." Husband replies he doesn't want to and "It always works out!" Sarah and I laughed because for the most part everything fun you have ever done was planned. It always "works out" for the other spouse because it was planned by the opposite spouse. We talked pros and cons of the white board and digital solutions. Then we talked about how you get your family involved with the system you've chosen and how to communicate the schedule. It was all so good! Listen then grab her book, "Best Laid Plans"
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| 0:00.0 | This week's meal bag comes to us from Rachel. |
| 0:02.9 | Last year, my daughter and I created a paper to give to her teachers explaining celiac disease with her picture so they would have a better understanding how to make sure she was safe at school. |
| 0:13.6 | We are currently in Wisconsin for treatment, 10 hours away from home, and I brought my entire Sunday basket with me. |
| 0:20.7 | After she got glutened with |
| 0:23.1 | some cross contact on her unit, I remembered that I had the infographic with her picture stored |
| 0:28.5 | in her slash pocket. I took a copy with me to her care team meeting and they hung it in the |
| 0:34.1 | nurse's station so everyone would be able to consult it, and it has her picture |
| 0:38.7 | so they can easily identify which patient she is. And it's been so helpful for them and a huge |
| 0:45.4 | Sunday basket win for me. Do you have an Organized 365 success story? If so, we would love |
| 0:53.1 | to hear about it. Please send us an email at customer |
| 0:56.3 | service at Organized 365 and tell us how you have taken back your home, your paper, and your life |
| 1:03.8 | with Organized 365. Welcome to the Organized 365 podcast. |
| 1:14.7 | I'm your host, professional organizer, productivity expert, and motivational speaker, Lisa Woodruff. |
| 1:21.6 | This podcast will help you embrace progress over perfection and create lasting functional organizing in your home. I have so |
| 1:30.3 | much to share with you, so let's get started. Today on the podcast, I'm interviewing Sarah Hart |
| 1:39.2 | Unger. She is the co-host with Laura Vandercam of the podcast Best of Both Worlds, and also the host of her own show, Best Laid Plans. |
| 1:48.7 | And we are going to be talking about her new book, which releases next week, also called Best Laid Plans. |
| 1:55.9 | Sarah is a repeat guest on the Organized 365 podcast. |
| 1:59.6 | Many of you also follow her other podcasts as well. I can't |
| 2:03.5 | wait to get in this conversation with you about some of the concepts I took out of her new book |
| 2:07.7 | and for you to also pre-order and get her pre-order bonuses. So without further ado, my interview |
| 2:14.1 | with Sarah. Sarah, welcome back to the Organized 365 podcast. |
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