Everything inside and even though I tried it all fell apart what it meant to me will eventually be a memory of my time when I tried so

I'm going to so far

but in the end it doesn't even matter. I had to far to lose it all. But in the end, it doesn't even matter.

Welcome to Talking Giants presented by Sikhic.

I'm your host Bobby Skinner here with'm your host, Justin Penick.

First off-season episode, and it is a handful, Justin.

The Giants fired Bobby Johnson, their offensive line coach,

their special teams coordinator Thomas Mageehi,

their outside linebacker coach is Drew Wilkins and oh by the way

wink Martindale resigned after Brian Dable said they expected him back in the

morning we got a lot to talk about this wink thing man. There's so many layers to it. I want to hit every single angle of this Justin how are you?

Yeah, weird day. Weird day where you're going to start off 8.30 a.m. very interesting time to

calculated obviously to throw a press conference you announce before that a 30 a.m.

early morning press conference that you're firing two coaches that you were expecting to fire.

And you're like, oh I expect, Wings Martindale, Mike Kaff could be back.

Oh, cool, all right. Expecting is the interesting term here and then lo and behold a couple

hours later, Charlotte Charlotte Carroll breaks that the

Wilkins brothers are gone and then a little while after that Lincoln Martindale is resigning

not fired so quite an interesting day Bobby Skinner let's let's break it all down I do I want to do like two

separate conversations with wink like one him as the football coach and why this stinks, right?

Why it stinks that this, that Wink Martdale is no longer

the defense coordinator, not the end of the world,

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