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🗓️ 22 November 2025
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Marty sits down with Steve Lee to discuss Bitcoin's path to becoming everyday money through Lightning infrastructure development, the importance of daily usage for strengthening Bitcoin's resilience, and why spending Bitcoin while remaining a long-term holder isn't contradictory.
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| 0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
| 0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
| 0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
| 0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their |
| 0:23.5 | currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
| 0:29.2 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
| 0:31.8 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
| 0:36.3 | Thank you for having me in your studio, sir. |
| 0:38.4 | Great to be here. |
| 0:39.4 | As we were just saying, this is the first time I've been interviewed in the studio. So I'm excited for it. I am too. I mean, this is a long time coming. We've been talking behind the scenes for many years now. Yeah, I've never been on the show either. I'm sorry, it took so long. the uh I mean, it's been a big week for the Block organization. Yeah, the past week extended it into this week. Yeah. There's even more, more announced on, well, yesterday, the DC policy stuff. Oh, yeah. Like the de minimis tax. So there's been a good week and a week and a half of really great stuff from Block and extended to the whole Bitcoin community, I think. |
| 1:18.1 | I finally got through the whole Miles Suter episode of yours. |
| 1:20.9 | So I'm up to speed in that. |
| 1:22.8 | He did a great job talking about all the efforts. |
| 1:26.8 | And then today is the investor day for Block, which only happens. |
| 1:33.5 | There was one like three years ago. |
| 1:35.6 | That was COVID era. |
| 1:37.1 | So it was like remote and, you know, this one will be in person. |
| 1:41.2 | And I think a lot. |
| 1:41.9 | Well, better for two reasons. |
| 1:43.2 | One, there's a ton of exciting stuff to share. |
| 1:45.3 | And then just being in person, it's more intimate and better feel to it. |
| 1:49.9 | Well, the reason I bring up the week that was for Block is because a lot of the products that were launched revolve around using Bitcoin as everyday money. |
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