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The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlstrom

#686: Autonomous innovation using predictable AI agents with Peter van der Putten, Pega

The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlstrom

The Agile Brand

Business, Marketing

52.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

What if your agentic AI could innovate autonomously—and still follow your business rules? Agility in the age of AI doesn't just mean speed. It means predictability, accountability, and the ability to innovate autonomously without businesses losing control of what is important, and what their customers value. Today we are here at PegaWorld 2025 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and we’re going to talk about how enterprises are starting to move beyond prompt-based, freewheeling AI models and toward something more mature, governed, and scalable: Predictable AI Agents. And we’ll explore what that means for the future of autonomous enterprise decisioning and innovation. To help me dig into this topic, I’d like to welcome Peter van der Putten, Director AI Lab and Lead Scientist at Pega. About Peter van der PuttenPeter van der Putten is assistant professor of AI, Leiden University and Director AI Lab at Pegasystems. Through his expertise in artificial intelligence and machine learning, Peter helps leading brands to become more ‘human’ by transforming into customer centric organizations. In addition to his role at Pegasystems, Peter is an assistant professor and creative researcher at the Leiden Institute of Advanced Computer Science (LIACS), Leiden University, The Netherlands.   Peter is particularly interested in how intelligence can evolve through learning, in man or machines. Peter has a MSc in Cognitive Artificial Intelligence from Utrecht University and a PhD in data mining from Leiden University, and combines academic research with applying these technologies in business. He teaches New Media New Technology and supervises MSc thesis projects.  RESOURCES Pega: https://www.pega.com https://www.pega.com The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Catch the future of e-commerce at eTail Boston, August 11-14, 2025. Register now: https://bit.ly/etailboston and use code PARTNER20 for 20% off for retailers and brandsOnline Scrum Master Summit is happening June 17-19. This 3-day virtual event is open for registration. Visit www.osms25.com and get a 25% discount off Premium All-Access Passes with the code osms25agilebrandDon't Miss MAICON 2025, October 14-16 in Cleveland - the event bringing together the brights minds and leading voices in AI. Use Code AGILE150 for $150 off registration. Go here to register: https://bit.ly/agile150Connect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstromDon't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.showCheck out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

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0:00.0

Your brand may be staying on top of current trends, but are you agile enough to stay relevant,

0:04.6

resilient, and successful as customers, competition, and the world continues to change at a

0:10.4

breakneck pace. I'm thrilled to share the newly revised version of my first book, The Agile

0:15.7

Brand. I'm calling it the Agile Brand Revisited. It's been updated to reflect our continually changing world,

0:22.1

and it provides seven principles that form the backbone of an Agile brand, offering detailed

0:26.8

insights and actionable steps for incorporating them into your business strategy. This is the book

0:31.9

that started it all, and I'm excited to share it with you. It's now available in print and digital

0:36.4

formats and available everywhere.

0:38.3

Learn more by going to the Agile Brand Guide website at www.adagelbrand guide.com.

0:44.3

The Agile Brand

0:48.3

Welcome to Season 7 of the Agile brand, where we discuss the trends and topics marketing leaders need to know.

1:00.3

Stay curious, stay agile, and join the top enterprise brands and MARTEC platforms as we explore marketing technology, AI, e-commerce, and whatever's next for the Omnichannel customer experience.

1:12.6

Together we'll discover what it takes to create an Agile brand, built for today and tomorrow,

1:16.6

and built for customers, employees, and continued business growth.

1:20.6

I'm your host, Greg Kilstrom, advising Fortune 1000 brands on Martec, AI, and marketing operations.

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The Agile Brand Podcast is brought to you by Tech Systems, an industry leader in full-stack technology services, talent services, and real-world application.

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For more information, go to teK systems.com.

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and leave us a rating so others can find us as well.

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And now on to the show.

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What if your agentic AI could innovate autonomously and still follow your business rules?

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Agility in the age of AI doesn't mean just speed.

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