Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast. I'm your host, Caving Answers

Apologist and Speaker, Trent Horn. And in today's episode, I'm going to offer my thoughts

on Joe Rogan and Matt Walsh's recent discussion of so-called gay marriage or so-called same-sex

marriage. Now, I just want to be clear at the outset that I'm not trying to bash Matt

Walsh or be overly critical of his engagement with Joe Rogan. I have been in the hot seat

before, and it's hard to have the perfect response when someone is questioning you, especially

on a topic you didn't think you were going to necessarily talk about. At worst, I think

some of Matt's responses were just a little muddled, but overall, he was on the right track

with where he was making his argument concerning marriage.

Once again, it's easy to sit back and say, well, here's what I would have done. It's

a lot different when you're in the hot seat fielding these questions. And one other thing

you might notice, Ironic, I'm going to talk about marriage a lot. You might say, what

is he wearing his wedding ring? I lost it. I'm trying to find it. I can't find where

it is. I have my original wedding ring. It's, you know, I keep it in my little safe. I

don't wear it because in marriage, you do a lot of growing in marriage. Unfortunately,

my growing has been more horizontal. When I got married, I was a skinny little guy.

My original wedding ring, it doesn't fit anymore. So I save it. I put it away in a safe place

and I was wearing a rubber ring because I'd work out and things like that. But as I was

working out, I did Jiu Jitsu recently and someone slammed me into the ground and my ring flew

off my hand and like it went across the gym and I didn't even know where it was. So I take

it off when I do, when I go to practice and things like that and I can't find it. So I

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