You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. You probably should be. Jordy Visser, welcome back to the show, sir.

It's good to be back, Marty.

How you doing?

Doing well.

Like I was saying, it's a bit colder that I'm used to in the fall,

having lived in Texas for the last four years.

But getting used to it and very excited for this conversation,

as I was saying before we hit record uh your weekly show has

been a staple of mine for for many months now and i really appreciate you putting it out there

i love doing it but uh i really like it when it helps people so i love here to it's great to have you here

i think having been in bitcoin for 12 years now, sometimes it feels like anything that can

be said about Bitcoin has been said.

But you wrote a piece a couple of weeks ago that I think was incredibly insightful for

a lot of Bitcoiners, particularly those who came from a cypherpunk and libertarian background,

not really understanding why the Bitcoin price is hovering right above 100,000 or 18 months

past the having.

We're supposed to be experiencing a parabolic bull run, and many people are scratching their

heads wondering what the heck is happening here.

You wrote a piece about Bitcoin's IPO moment really anchoring to experience experiences you've had in traditional

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