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678. Who Gets to Choose a “Good Death”?

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🗓️ 19 June 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

New York is the latest state to legalize medical aid in dying. Stephen Dubner speaks with the governor who signed the law, a Nobel Prize-winning economist, a death doula — and an ethicist who thinks the very idea is wrong.

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Daniel Connaman was a celebrated and influential scholar, trained in psychology, but with a seemingly

0:10.0

limitless way of thinking about the world. In 2002, he won a Nobel Prize in economics. In 2011, he

0:18.1

published a popular book called Thinking, Fast and Slow. His primary topic was human

0:23.5

decision-making, especially how we make decisions under uncertainty. His work has influenced

0:28.9

people in government and policymaking and medicine and finance, in the military, the criminal

0:34.9

justice system, and more. And why were Connman's insights so valuable?

0:40.9

Maybe because uncertainty is a feature, not a bug, of human existence. Whatever you do in your

0:47.9

professional or personal life, you have to deal with uncertainty. As for certainties, well, there just aren't that many of them.

0:57.8

Perhaps the most reliable certainty in life is death.

1:02.7

A couple of years ago, as Conaman approached his 90th birthday, that certainty must have felt particularly salient.

1:09.2

He was still in relatively good health,

1:11.7

and his mind was sharp, but he decided that his time had come. He traveled to France,

1:18.4

where he'd grown up, barely surviving the Nazis. He gathered with his family in Paris to

1:24.3

celebrate his 90th birthday, meals, museum visits, nice walks.

1:29.8

From there, Connman traveled on to Switzerland, where the laws on assisted suicide are more

1:35.1

permissive than most other places, and he ended his life. In an email to friends, he wrote,

1:41.3

I have believed since I was a teenager that the miseries and indignities of the last

1:45.7

years of life are superfluous, and I am acting on that belief.

1:57.1

Danny Connman made a very considered decision.

2:00.5

That is Al Roth.

2:01.8

He is an economist at Stanford.

2:04.0

He too has a Nobel Prize.

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