Well, hello, hello, guys. You're listening to Beauty Bites with Dr. K, Secrets of a Plastic Surgeon,

and it's time for an amazing podcast. Today we have a very well-known guest, Dr. Stephen Gundry.

He is an American physician and he is a cardiothoracic surgeon. Also, you did some emergency medicine,

I've heard. You've written a book called The Plant

Paradox, Hidden Dangers of Healthy Food, and you're going to teach us today about what we should be

doing to better our diets. It's somewhat controversial, your lectin-free diet, but I am so curious

to learn about inflammatory issues that come up with us. Welcome to the podcast.

Well, thanks for having me and happy to chat about inflammation and where it comes from.

Yeah, so tell us what is the paradox about plants? Because I thought it's all good to be eating

green, leafy vegetables, fruits, and, you know, things that come from

plants.

Believe it not, plants were here first.

They were on earth about, oh, 80 million years before predators arrived, and the first

predators were insects.

And in fact, the Garden of Eden was probably for plants because nobody

wanted to eat them. Well, when insects arrived, plants couldn't run, they couldn't hide,

they couldn't fight, but they're chemists of incredible ability. So they use defensive compounds to try to convince their predators by making

them feel bad. That it wouldn't be a good idea to eat them or their babies, their seeds.

And depending on the plants place in the world, these things are pretty impressively

designed to convince first insects, and now us, not to eat them.

And so the plant paradox is, you're right.

There's a lot of plants that are pretty doggone good to eat. In fact, I'm a

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