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Grumpy old geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame.

Welcome to Grumpy Old Geeks. I'm Jason DeFilippo.

And I'm Brian Schillmeister. We got some breaking news, Jason. Come on. Break it to me, Brian.

Fresh off the internet tubes.

The TikTok ban has been upheld in court.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit has denied TikTok's petition to review

the law after both sides asked for a ruling by December 6th before the nationwide's ban,

which is scheduled for a January 19th start date.

We'll see if that actually happens. TikTok and creators on the app sued the federal government in an effort to halt the ban,

which forces TikTok to either divest from Chinese own parent company, ByteDance, or else be banned

from U.S. app stores. TikTok has argued that the ban infringes on the company's First Amendment

rights and divesting from ByteDance is not possible technologically, commercially, or legally.

While the government maintained, the ban was essential for national security, although

they have put that evidence under seal and not publicly released it, which is what you do

if it's national security.

Exactly.

Dirk.

So we'll see what happens next.

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