676: Classroom Culture Wars & the Spirituality of Secular America with Rachel Martin
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 2 July 2025
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
With Phil on vacation, Kaitlyn and Esau join Skye to talk about the Supreme Court’s ruling that public schools must allow students to opt out of gender or sexuality content that may contradict the religious beliefs of their families. At the same time, more Americans say public schools should hire chaplains to offer spiritual guidance to students. With schools increasingly becoming the front line in the culture war, can public education survive? Then, Skye talks to Rachel Martin, the co-creator of NPR’s Wild Card podcast and former host of Morning Edition, about what she’s learned from interviewing artists, actors, and activists about their beliefs. She offers an intriguing glimpse into the spirituality of secular America. Also this week—the internet is full of bad advice about “toxic” relationships.
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0:00 - Show Starts
2:30 - Theme Song
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5:02 - LGBTQ Schoolbook Opt-Outs
27:12 - Who’s Toxic?
35:18 - Did We Jettison Forgiveness?
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49:45 - Interview
55:00 - Staying Informed without Burnout
59:30 - Rachel’s Spiritual Background
1:13:52 - The Wild Card podcast and Spirituality
1:27:32 - End Credits
Links from News Segment:
Court’s Ruling on Parents Opting Out of LGBTQ books in Schools:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/27/us/politics/supreme-court-lgbtq-books.html
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. The Supreme Court has ruled that public schools must allow students to |
| 0:05.3 | opt out of gender or sexuality content that may contradict their religious beliefs of their |
| 0:10.4 | families. At the same time, more Americans say public schools ought to hire chaplains to offer |
| 0:15.7 | spiritual guidance to students. With schools increasingly becoming the front line in the culture |
| 0:20.4 | war, can public |
| 0:21.8 | education survive? Then I talk to Rachel Martin, the co-creator of NPR's Wild Card podcast and |
| 0:28.4 | former host of Morning Edition, about what she's learned from interviewing artists, actors, and |
| 0:33.3 | activists about their beliefs. She offers an intriguing glimpse into the spirituality of secular |
| 0:39.0 | America. Hey, a quick reminder that chapter two of my new book, The World Born in You, |
| 0:44.3 | Letters to a New Generation of American Christians, is being released in a few days exclusively for |
| 0:49.6 | Holy Post Plus subscribers. I'm writing this book and releasing it as a serial with a new chapter each |
| 0:55.9 | month. And if you've not yet joined Holy Post Plus, now is a great time because in July, |
| 1:01.3 | we're also going to be releasing the audio version of the book. To learn more about the book |
| 1:05.6 | and to read the introduction for free, head on over to holypost.com and then sign up for Holy Post Plus with the promo code |
| 1:12.9 | book to get 20% off your subscription. Again, the promo code is book and you'll get 20% off |
| 1:19.9 | everything that we're creating at Holy Post Plus. Here is episode 676. Hello everyone and welcome |
| 1:27.1 | to the Holy Post podcast. |
| 1:28.3 | I am Sky Jatani. |
| 1:29.3 | Phil Visher has abandoned us. |
| 1:32.3 | He's gone. |
| 1:33.3 | Oh. |
| 1:34.3 | Wait, this isn't the Esau-Machau podcast? |
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