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674 // The Killer and Frank Lloyd Wright w/ Casey Sherman

Missing

Crawlspace Media

News, Society & Culture, True Crime

3.73.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Casey Sherman to discuss his new book, The Killer and Frank Lloyd Wright. Casey recounts the horrific murder of Frank Lloyd Wright’s lover, “Mamah” Borthwick in this fascinating work of true crime. This episode was previously published on Crawlspace on May 20th, 2026. Pick up your copy of The Killer and Frank Lloyd Wright: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-killer-and-frank-lloyd-wright-the-true-story-of-mass-murder-in-paradise-casey-sherman/37ffba38fae9c2a5. https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Frank-Lloyd-Wright-Paradise/dp/1464241899. Follow Casey and buy his books, they are great! ⁠⁠⁠Twitter: https://x.com/caseysherman123. ⁠⁠⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caseyshermanwrites/. The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Missing: IG: https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm. FB: https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM. X: https://twitter.com/MissingCSM. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447. Follow Crawlspace: IG: https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast. TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast. FB: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast. X: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340. Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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Hey, missing listeners, we wanted to bring you an episode that recently aired on our other podcast, CrawlSpace.

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So for any listener who doesn't know, we do have two shows.

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And we always want to share episodes of CrawlSpace on Missing when they're appropriate and relevant.

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So that's what you're getting here.

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And please make sure to like and subscribe and

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follow us on social media. Thanks a lot for listening. So this caretaker joins this group,

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and what they don't realize is that he is most likely an undiagnosed schizophrenic, and something

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sets him off, and he ultimately burns down the entire home and kills

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everybody inside with an axe as they're trying to escape, including Mamma Borthwick and her two

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young children. I'm Oh Oh Oh

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Oh Oh On today's new episode, we are thrilled to be joined once again by author, investigative journalist and documentarian Mr. Casey Sherman.

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Casey sits down with us to discuss his 20th book, The Killer and Frank Lloyd Wright.

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The book opens up the little-known dark chapter of Frank Lloyd Wright's life, one that is

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marked by incredible tragedy and gut-wrenching horror.

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This remarkable book is due out on June 9th, and you can pick up a copy at your local

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