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The Jordan Harbinger Show

674: Ken Croke | Undercover in an Outlaw Biker Gang Part Two

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Business, Education, Science

4.812.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Ken Croke is a retired ATF agent who worked undercover for years to bust numerous criminal organizations, and is the co-author of Riding with Evil: Taking Down the Notorious Pagan Motorcycle Gang. [This is part two of a two-part episode. Make sure you've had a listen to part one here!]

What We Discuss with Ken Croke:
  • How did Ken (and his wife, who was also a federal agent) keep their undercover lives separate from their home lives without jeopardizing either?
  • Working undercover over the course of two years, what were some of Ken's closest calls that almost compromised his cover -- and possibly his life?
  • How is evidence gathered in a way that will hold up in court without blowing an undercover agent's cover?
  • What signals that it's time for an undercover operation to end?
  • Does Ken worry about what his former gang associates might do if their paths should ever cross again?
  • And much more...

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Coming up next on the Jordan Harbinger Show.

0:03.7

You don't go into it knowing us two years.

0:05.0

It could be two minutes.

0:06.0

Listen, I didn't sign up for two years on the cover deal.

0:08.2

That's just what it turned into.

0:09.8

And most of the, or a lot of these, is they're progressing along, get stopped for different

0:14.9

reasons.

0:15.9

One, something's going to happen where you have to come out of roll and stop it.

0:18.7

Number two, your cover does get blown and it happens regularly.

0:21.9

Like there's so many things that can happen that would stop it.

0:25.3

The fact that very few of these run for two years, you're always kind of just seeing

0:29.6

how it's going to play out.

0:31.4

And that's where some of this dumb luck comes into it.

0:34.8

And people always think I'm making light of it, but it is a fact.

0:41.4

Welcome to the show.

0:42.4

I'm Jordan Harbinger.

0:43.4

On the Jordan Harbinger Show, we decode the stories, secrets and skills of the world's

0:47.0

most fascinating people.

0:48.4

We have in-depth conversations with scientists, entrepreneurs, spies, psychologists, even

0:53.5

the occasional drug trafficker, money laundering, experts, or astronaut.

0:58.0

Each episode turns our guests wisdom into practical advice that you can use to build a deeper

1:02.2

understanding of how the world works and become a better thinker.

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