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Michael and Us

#673 - Virtual Encountering on a Global Scale

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Society & Culture

4.5696 Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In A HOLOGRAM FOR THE KING (2016), Tom Hanks is a depressed American businessman trying to find himself in Saudi Arabia. It's the lamest fish-out-of-water self-actualization comedy/drama we've ever tackled! PLUS: We discuss Doug Ford's war on renters in Ontario, and - of course - address the news of Rush Hour 4. Join us on Patreon for an extra episode every week - https://www.patreon.com/michaelandus

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0:00.0

What is it good for?

0:05.4

Absolutely.

0:06.6

Nothing.

0:08.1

You excited for Rush Hour 4?

0:10.8

That was the, I was about to tell you, you didn't even realize the mics were rolling.

0:15.2

I was about to tell you, well, I got nothing, my friend, should we do Rush Hour 4?

0:20.3

Yeah, it's such a gimmie, right? I mean, look, this is a culture and politics podcast.

0:24.9

I'm not excited. I can't even mobilize ironic excitement around that. I'm sorry.

0:29.3

Wow. So to those who say we don't disagree on this podcast enough, I say we disagree right now.

0:35.7

I am so ironically excited that I'm unironically excited. I am I'm always up for a

0:43.7

rush hour movie and look, people are going to come and say, oh, Brett Ratner. And fair enough.

0:50.2

Not a good guy. And rush hour, not good. After the, after like the first one, really? That's the good one, right? I think rush hour too is probably the best of the trilogy. I liked it when I was a kid, but it's got to be trash, right? Probably. I remember what we revisited the first one. Didn't you feel good back then? Wasn't that a nice time in your life? When you and I did rush hour one for the

1:12.8

pod, I seemed to recall that I really enjoyed it and you were kind of like, eh, you know? Yeah.

1:18.0

So I'm kind of surprised to hear you coming out with this, oh, I'm ironically slash post-ironically

1:23.7

slash actually excited for Rush Hour 4. I just remember how happy those movies made me and my generation,

1:30.2

you know, back when we were, you know, renting them on VHS. You know, 9-11 hadn't happened yet.

1:36.2

We were, we were having fun. We were laughing at Chris Tucker. The whole future was ahead of us.

1:41.7

It was just a great time, you know, never touch a black man's radio. All the classic bits. Do you understand the words? He likes the Beach Boys, which thinking about it, very similar bit is used to not very great effect in the movie we're going to talk about. You know what I love about Brett Ratner and by which I mean I don't love it about him is whenever you see Brett Ratner interviewed, whenever he's talked about Rush Hour, he's always been like, you know, I'm the only American director who understood Jackie Chan. I knew I could bring Jackie Chan over here. And then it's like, you watch the movies, he has no idea what to do with Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan just gets completely blown out of the water by Chris Tucker. If you want to have a laugh, watch some behind the scenes footage of Rush Hour,

2:19.6

and you see Jackie Chan directing a fight scene, which, like, in 1998,

2:24.2

a watered down shit Jackie Chan fight scene is still better than like anything you'll see now.

2:30.1

And you'll see him directing it.

2:31.4

And he'll be like, where's Brett Ratner?

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